Player Watch #11: Max Gawn (C) – 6 x All-Australian, 2 x Best & Fairest, AFLCA Champion Player and Premiership Captain

[Gysberts2Bate]

So we get worse going from 0 decent wingers to 1?

Is that what I said?

 

[schmuttt]

Is that what I said?

Well yes it is, you said our biggest problem would get worse with Langdon on the wing so one would imagine our biggest problem getting even worse makes us a worse side.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Well yes it is, you said our biggest problem would get worse with Langdon on the wing so one would imagine our biggest problem getting even worse makes us a worse side.

Our biggest problem isn’t fixed by having a winger for the sake of having one when our garbage kicking inside 50 is why our lack of good outside players is such an issue. Langdon is one of the worst at it in the comp, it’s not going to be the right role for him to play for us.

 

[Topkent]

Our biggest problem isn’t fixed by having a winger for the sake of having one when our garbage kicking inside 50 is why our lack of good outside players is such an issue. Langdon is one of the worst at it in the comp, it’s not going to be the right role for him to play for us.

Yeah I'm kinda on the fence with Langdon. If ANB was given the freedom outside that he gets I'm not certain he couldn't do a similar job

 

[schmuttt]

Yeah I'm kinda on the fence with Langdon. If ANB was given the freedom outside that he gets I'm not certain he couldn't do a similar job

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[Topkent]

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We don't play with wingers and we don't attack the wings. Langdon is an aerobic beast who was rated one of the worst kicks in the AFL by champion data. 80% of his kicks were turnovers going inside 50. All that happens is he is allowed to play exclusively outside at the dockers.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

We don't play with wingers and we don't attack the wings. Langdon is an aerobic beast who was rated one of the worst kicks in the AFL by champion data. 80% of his kicks were turnovers going inside 50. All that happens is he is allowed to play exclusively outside at the dockers.

Look at the Freo v Essendon game. Hill (who just had an off night, is normally a good user going inside 50) and Langdon released to the outside. Massive possession numbers, massive turnovers, Essendon never looked like losing. Langdon alone isn't somehow going to be a panacea to our midfield mix. IMO would be much more suited to bringing his big pressure game and groundball ability and run and carry to our back half.

 

[Demon bhoy]

Yeah I'm kinda on the fence with Langdon. If ANB was given the freedom outside that he gets I'm not certain he couldn't do a similar job

The sort of job you have to take to the small claims tribunal to see if you can get you money back

 

[schmuttt]

We don't play with wingers and we don't attack the wings. Langdon is an aerobic beast who was rated one of the worst kicks in the AFL by champion data. 80% of his kicks were turnovers going inside 50. All that happens is he is allowed to play exclusively outside at the dockers.

FFS mate ANB shits himself under little pressure and fumbles the ball, the guy doesn't even get basic skills right.

Look at the Freo v Essendon game. Hill (who just had an off night, is normally a good user going inside 50) and Langdon released to the outside. Massive possession numbers, massive turnovers, Essendon never looked like losing. Langdon alone isn't somehow going to be a panacea to our midfield mix. IMO would be much more suited to bringing his big pressure game and groundball ability and run and carry to our back half.

I don't think Langdon is going to suddenly make us into a finals side but he absolutely improves us on the spread.

 

[Topkent]

The sort of job you have to take to the small claims tribunal to see if you can get you money back

Can't wait to read you bitching about how we got bent over in the trade deal all of next year.

 

[Demon bhoy]

Can't wait to read you bitching about how we got bent over in the trade deal all of next year.

I’m willing to do anything that helps you gain a broader insight into how clever people operate

 

[Topkent]

I’m willing to do anything that helps you gain a broader insight into how clever people operate

Oh I think you're referring to your magical power of hindsight

 

[Demon bhoy]

Oh I think you're referring to your magical power of hindsight

Your thinking of foresight, two different things

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

FFS mate ANB s**ts himself under little pressure and fumbles the ball, the guy doesn't even get basic skills right.



I don't think Langdon is going to suddenly make us into a finals side but he absolutely improves us on the spread.

We aren’t coached to spread. If the coaches change the game plan because we get Langdon I’ll be happy to see some results.

 

[schmuttt]

We aren’t coached to spread. If the coaches change the game plan because we get Langdon I’ll be happy to see some results.

If we aren't coached to spread in 2020 we'll be getting a new head coach anyway.

 

[saj_21]

Unpopular football opinion;

Max Gawns season was overrated and he was fortunate to be selected in the AA.

 

[TheCount]

If we aren't coached to spread in 2020 we'll be getting a new head coach anyway.

 

[mrmonkey]

I don’t know if Salem was ever really leading it for a substantial period. Gawn was pretty dominant pretty early

I still thought Salem was very consistent early, I guess that with Gawn it's expected that he'll perform week after week it's easy to overlook how well he's been playing because it's at such a high standard.

 

[schmuttt]

Unpopular football opinion;

Max Gawns season was overrated and he was fortunate to be selected in the AA.

Statistically he was better than last year in a lot of areas but don't feel he had the impact on the game as much, especially in hitouts.

 

[Jamurp]

Still remember his game against the Cats down at Geelong in 2015 when we finally broke the hoodoo, not certain it was his breakout game, but the first I saw that made me think how good he could and would be.

Champion, just wish we’d had a better year as a club to compliment him.

 

[Cannon82]

He had a great year. He's a 208 cm tap ruck who can get around the ground and has excellent skills for a big ma(r)n. He's genuinely one of our better field kicks, which is more of an indictment on the rest of the side. He can make the game look ridiculously easy at times but is prone to the odd clanger and shank - if anything I think his season is underrated. If our mids had been in better form / more dominant, I'm sure people would be raving about the season he just had. His tap work could have been better but the people on the end of it were just as much if not more at fault.

 

[saj_21]

Still remember his game against the Cats down at Geelong in 2015 when we finally broke the hoodoo, not certain it was his breakout game, but the first I saw that made me think how good he could and would be.

Champion, just wish we’d had a better year as a club to compliment him.

What I loved in that game was his contested marking. His marking this year was very poor. The giants game at the G was the only time I remember him taking some big marks.

 

[Johnny Karate]

What I loved in that game was his contested marking. His marking this year was very poor. The giants game at the G was the only time I remember him taking some big marks.

Yeah. He deserves credit for working his arse off but some of those games like Queen’s Birthday were really stat padding. He’s far more effective when he takes intercept marks or rocks forward to take a contested grab.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

What I loved in that game was his contested marking. His marking this year was very poor. The giants game at the G was the only time I remember him taking some big marks.

What? He took the sixth most contested marks in the comp this season and his intercept marking went to another level.

 

[Topkent]

What? He took the sixth most contested marks in the comp this season and his intercept marking went to another level.

Went to another level? I reckon he was better at it last year