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[TeeKray]

One of these days, every player will fall under someone's zone or academy or father/son rule and there will be no need for a draft anymore.

 

[El_Scorcho]

One of these days, every player will fall under someone's zone or academy or father/son rule and there will be no need for a draft anymore.

Works in the NRL.

The NGA academies including kids who's father's played AFL or extensive state league footy is the stupidest s**t they've ever done to the draft.

 

[El_Scorcho]

lol that's still s**t to be honest. its still not a level playing field. We do get access to metro indigenous kids but only the ones that aren't highly rated. guys who are still left in the 3rd round.

under vic rules Milera and rankine would be Hawthorn saints pies or whatever if born in Melbourne. we still wouldn't have access to them.

Have they actually explained why this is?

It just seems obscenely biased towards the Vic teams.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Have they actually explained why this is?

It just seems obscenely biased towards the Vic teams.

You just answered your own question.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

NGA tweak to give SA, WA clubs greater indigenous access

Four clubs could get their wish for more access to indigenous players in metropolitan areas under Academy rules

www.afl.com.au

THE SOUTH Australian and West Australian clubs look set to get their wish for greater access to indigenous draft prospects under likely changes to the Next Generation Academy model.

Clubs were told it is likely Adelaide, Port Adelaide, West Coast and Fremantle will gain priority access to indigenous prospects in metropolitan regions after pick No.40 of the NAB AFL Draft.

If a rival club wanted to select the player before pick 40, they would get access to them under current rules as though the player is part of the open pool.

But clubs believe under the revised system, if a rival was keen on the player from pick No.40 onwards, they would have to go through the father-son and Academy bidding process.

Full details are yet to be clarified to clubs, but the change is not expected to come into effect until 2020. The AFL is mindful of protecting the first two rounds of the draft from further compromise.

West Coast last year put forward the proposal on behalf of the four clubs, arguing that all indigenous and multicultural prospects in Victoria are tied to clubs under the NGA system but not those in SA and WA.

So we only want Victorians to be able to compromise the first 2 rounds of the draft?

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[TheFVK]

I despise that the afl never attempts to equalise any of the advantages that having ten teams in one state brings about and also won’t let them be disadvantaged because of it when something threatens to

Spot on. What a shithouse corrupt competition the AFL has turned out to be.

 

[Janus]

Have they actually explained why this is?

It just seems obscenely biased towards the Vic teams.

You’ll find it has a lot to do with the actual numbers of aboriginal kids that live in those zones.

The population of Melbourne in 2016 was 4.4 million - 0.5% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. That’s 22,000 or so divided between six teams, or 3500 for each club.

The population of Adelaide in 2016 was 1.3 million - 1.4% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. Around 9500 for each club.

I’m sure it’s even a greater disparity in Perth.

There’s more chance of a star indigenous kid coming from Adelaide or Perth than there is from Melbourne just by weight of numbers.

 

[melanChronic]

You’ll find it has a lot to do with the actual numbers of aboriginal kids that live in those zones.

The population of Melbourne in 2016 was 4.4 million - 0.5% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. That’s 22,000 or so divided between six teams, or 3500 for each club.

The population of Adelaide in 2016 was 1.3 million - 1.4% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. Around 9500 for each club.

I’m sure it’s even a greater disparity in Perth.

There’s more chance of a star indigenous kid coming from Adelaide or Perth than there is from Melbourne just by weight of numbers.

This is a silly system because it is hard to measure how much more difficult it is for rural and remote kids to make it as professional athletes as opposed to kids that have access to football programs in built up areas.

This new change is total bullshit too. You would rather a 1 in 50 shot at genuine top tier talent rather than a 1 in 10 shot at a late pick project player. The only way it can be fair is if the top 40 barricade is there for all NGA prospects.

 

[VineValerian]

This is a silly system because it is hard to measure how much more difficult it is for rural and remote kids to make it as professional athletes as opposed to kids that have access to football programs in built up areas.

This new change is total bulls**t too. You would rather a 1 in 50 shot at genuine top tier talent rather than a 1 in 10 shot at a late pick project player. The only way it can be fair is if the top 40 barricade is there for all NGA prospects.

Spot on. I can accept that there are more indigenous metro players per clubhere than in Melbourne. But at least keep all 18 clubs out of the first two draft rounds, then everyone gets a fair crack at the top indigenous kids under the bidding system. So if you have a good kid in your zone, they can be bid on, and you can match the bid with picks.

Or else you can take the kid with your 3rd round pick if he is still there.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Spot on. I can accept that there are more indigenous metro players per clubhere than in Melbourne. But at least keep all 18 clubs out of the first two draft rounds, then everyone gets a fair crack at the top indigenous kids under the bidding system. So if you have a good kid in your zone, they can be bid on, and you can match the bid with picks.

Or else you can take the kid with your 3rd round pick if he is still there.

Or just get rid of the actual problem and get rid if a few Melbourne clubs.

 

[El_Scorcho]

You’ll find it has a lot to do with the actual numbers of aboriginal kids that live in those zones.

The population of Melbourne in 2016 was 4.4 million - 0.5% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. That’s 22,000 or so divided between six teams, or 3500 for each club.

The population of Adelaide in 2016 was 1.3 million - 1.4% of which were Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. Around 9500 for each club.

I’m sure it’s even a greater disparity in Perth.

There’s more chance of a star indigenous kid coming from Adelaide or Perth than there is from Melbourne just by weight of numbers.

Makes sense. I guess that's pretty well reflected in the list of greatest Indigenous players of all time as well if you think about it.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

I would suggest that the best point of challenge is that the logistics of academying urban indigenous kids (like Melb clubs) is comfortably simpler and cheaper than 100% of our club’s potential academy kids being well outside city limits.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

These maps comparing AFL defined regional SA and regional Victoria should help explain the differences.

 

[philthy05]

As I’ve said all along the Victorian clubs enjoy all the benefits of having multiple clubs in the state it’s a joke they get a leg up when it’s a hindrance.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I would suggest that the best point of challenge is that the logistics of academying urban indigenous kids (like Melb clubs) is comfortably simpler and cheaper than 100% of our club’s potential academy kids being well outside city limits.

It would also be interesting to see a stat on average career length of remote kids vs. City kids.

On face value it seems that remote kids find it harder to commit for the long term so far away from home.

This should also be factored in rather than just pure number of kids.

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[Holden Hillbilly]

HERE'S the early warning: get ready to hear the word 'compromised' plenty of times next year. The 2020 NAB AFL Draft is more than 12 months away, but already the chatter has started about what's to come.

While recruiters, particularly those focused on the 'futures' markets, are of mixed views about the quality of next year's group, there is no doubt about the overwhelming number of players already tied to clubs.

Of the 48 players selected for the game, 17 are tied to AFL clubs around the competition as either potential father-sons, Next Generation Academy picks or northern Academy products.

In the All Stars game, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs), Brandon Walker and Joel Western (Fremantle), Connor Downie (Hawthorn), Reef McInnes (Collingwood), Lachlan Jones (Port Adelaide), James Borlase (Adelaide) and Cody Brand (Essendon) are all possible NGA picks for their clubs next season.

There are also a couple of possible father-sons on the horizon, with Taj Schofield, the son of 2004 premiership player Jarrad, eligible to join Port Adelaide, and Luke Edwards, whose father Tyson played in two flags with Adelaide, able to join the Crows.

TWOMEY: Will the 2020 draft be the most compromised in history?

Father-sons and academy players dominate under 17s All Stars selections

www.afl.com.au

 

[dirty2]

HERE'S the early warning: get ready to hear the word 'compromised' plenty of times next year. The 2020 NAB AFL Draft is more than 12 months away, but already the chatter has started about what's to come.

While recruiters, particularly those focused on the 'futures' markets, are of mixed views about the quality of next year's group, there is no doubt about the overwhelming number of players already tied to clubs.

Of the 48 players selected for the game, 17 are tied to AFL clubs around the competition as either potential father-sons, Next Generation Academy picks or northern Academy products.

In the All Stars game, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs), Brandon Walker and Joel Western (Fremantle), Connor Downie (Hawthorn), Reef McInnes (Collingwood), Lachlan Jones (Port Adelaide), James Borlase (Adelaide) and Cody Brand (Essendon) are all possible NGA picks for their clubs next season.

There are also a couple of possible father-sons on the horizon, with Taj Schofield, the son of 2004 premiership player Jarrad, eligible to join Port Adelaide, and Luke Edwards, whose father Tyson played in two flags with Adelaide, able to join the Crows.

TWOMEY: Will the 2020 draft be the most compromised in history?

Father-sons and academy players dominate under 17s All Stars selections

www.afl.com.au

Lachlan jones? Who is he and any good?

 

[Macca19]

Lachlan Jones must be the player that Parker was talking about at the members convention

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Jones seems to be a midfielder who wins lots of clearances and takes lots of marks. (3 contested marks last week) Schofield, Jase Burgoyne and Jones will be in the u 18 grand final next week for wwt.

 

[Malibu#27]

Lachlan Jones must be the player that Parker was talking about at the members convention

Guy on the left by the looks

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

So who is Lachlan Jones father?

Strongly built - indigenous Byron Pickett type from Port's country academy - from Yorke Peninsula with a few games for WWT juniors. State under 16s last year and now in the top 40 under 17s in the land.

 

[Relativity]

Cheers mal. What position does he play?

 

[shewho]

This is getting good. If anyone has some more information on Jones, that would be appreciated. Tevita Rodan should be on the watch list too- although Tevita sounds like a digestive biscuit.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Just looking through some AFL draft central reviews, Jones's name crops up with 30+ possessions at U18 for WWT a few times. He was in the state U16 championship team.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/tag/lachlan-jones/

 

[Long live PAFC]

How are our NGA prospects for next year looking?