Autopsy QF 2019 - Pies d Cats by 10 points

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I took mine off the Optus Oval fact sheet - I'm blaming them if it's wrong :p

Unless the 171m by 146m is the dimensions to the fence, and the dimensions on the fact sheet is referring to the in bounds playing area - does that make sense?

The fence to fence is 173.5m long I think.
 
Not how i see it.
They get us to overachieve with a very average list, apart from the recognised superstars.
We had 4 AA's and a few others who were close. Average list, indeed.

I disagree. The facts support Scott as a home and away specialist coach who does not have the coaching acumen to get his team to play finals level football. He cannot develop a coaching plan to take on finals pressure.

An average coach is Scott. A corporate coach who plays the media well and knows how to massage the board. He is the opposite of a Clarkson or Thompson. More like a Ross Lyon.
 

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We had 4 AA's and a few others who were close. Average list, indeed.

I disagree. The facts support Scott as a home and away specialist coach who does not have the coaching acumen to get his team to play finals level football. He cannot develop a coaching plan to take on finals pressure.

An average coach is Scott. A corporate coach who plays the media well and knows how to massage the board. He is the opposite of a Clarkson or Thompson. More like a Ross Lyon.
No issue with our top end talent, have said that several times; just our bottom 6-8 are not up to the standard of the good top 6 teams. Your issue with Scott fails when we actually do win finals, like v Hawthorn, Swans.
 
No issue with our top end talent, have said that several times; just our bottom 6-8 are not up to the standard of the good top 6 teams. Your issue with Scott fails when we actually do win finals, like v Hawthorn, Swans.
Hawthorn and Swans were easy targets. Like the Bulldogs to WCE today. A win is a win, I suppose.

I would rate our top 12 against any team. If the coach can't get 6-8 good ordinary players to play a role week in week out, then he is not much of a coach. The bottom six aren't supposed to carry the team, you know.

I watched the first quarter again today (masochist, I know). The game plan is definite. Hold the ball up, go around the boundary line, slowly does it. Control the tempo. Don't take risks. You can do this against weaker teams like Carlton and North. But a decent side will break out and slap you down. Like what happened.

Scott is murdering our big marking forwards. He killed our midfield leaving out Stanley. I'm interested to hear you defend him leaving out a ruckman.
 
Hawthorn and Swans were easy targets. Like the Bulldogs to WCE today. A win is a win, I suppose.

I would rate our top 12 against any team. If the coach can't get 6-8 good ordinary players to play a role week in week out, then he is not much of a coach. The bottom six aren't supposed to carry the team, you know.

I watched the first quarter again today (masochist, I know). The game plan is definite. Hold the ball up, go around the boundary line, slowly does it. Control the tempo. Don't take risks. You can do this against weaker teams like Carlton and North. But a decent side will break out and slap you down. Like what happened.

Scott is murdering our big marking forwards. He killed our midfield leaving out Stanley. I'm interested to hear you defend him leaving out a ruckman.
I said it would happen on Thursday, and if it had been pouring, wet , windy, stormy as predicted, it might have made sense.
The alternative was to drop Taylor , given the size of Pies forwards, and their speed. As I am a Stanley appreciator, I'd have him in every week.
 
The issue here isn’t that they aren’t going to change the game plan after last night.

The issue is we have now had 3 years and going into a 4th of this not working, you can’t rip up a game plan now but it should have been changed 6 months ago.

I hope I am proven wrong and the next 3 weeks are the best 3 weeks we will experience since 2011, but how many more times do we serve up last nights quarter 1 before we realize it needs to change?

I am not in the sack Scott club, he proved earlier this year he can change things with more attacking football, and I don’t think there is much more out there.

But what changes, if we don’t win the next three what does Chris Scott do to stop the same movie playing over and over again?

Star Wars episode 1: 16PF
Episode 2: 17QF
Episode 3: 17PF
Episode 4: 18EF
Episode 5: 19QF

I don’t need to see this movie again.

Been covered in depth in the Chris Scott thread you can add Rhy Stanley 2019 into the bolded thread topics.

Technically he has progressed gone 360 too many ruckmen to zero lol.

Every Geelong supporter or AFL follower knows the cats recent record has been done at nauseum. Your doing a good job of ballet dancing on the fence with a sneaky knife in your back pocket. The question I pose will it change from this week to next I would say no. Listen my view is he can coach did some great things this year Geelong continue to be a fortress at home but the record is crystal clear his gameplan and slow kick mark ball movement isn't going to win many finals. This is 100% true and has always been that way for me personally. When he won in 2011 the style of play was quite Aggressive and attacking. But you had so many other avenues booting to the boundary line, flooding, etc etc. The game moves closer to slick ball movement every week Geelong has gone it's own way that's fine if you want to win that' way good luck show us.

And perhaps The hierarchy have applied a strategy to just be competitive that probably doesn't win you many finals but it gives you a chance to be there and need a fair bit of luck to hit a GF.

And cats are still a chance to win in melb not favourites lol.

I keep it current all those previous finals have no impact on the west coast game. I don't care about them anymore to much frustration and pain.... Let's let the season shake itself out then talk about the what ifs
 
If Moore goes down (high possibility) they're stuffed.

Another soft flag to Richmond awaits.

Yep missing at least 6 of best 22.

Langdon
Beams
Cox
De Goey
Greenwood

Even guys like quaynor, reid, dunn, Aish who might just play
 
It reminded me of the Hawthorn game last year - Blicavs started the game in the middle of the ground, sometimes on Mitchell and other times in the ruck. Once the ruck contest was over he would then work hard to get back into defence to take Roughead - and we all remember what happened to young Zac Guthrie late in the match

Wish we wouldn't get too smart with Blicavs and just leave him in one role - unless we need to switch things up during the match such as the Adelaide game


That is exactly spot on listen when things aren't working yeah for sure throw the magnets around.

But going in with this kind of plan against arguably the best ruck in the comp at ground level it's probably too clever in my eyes.
 

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Be nice to have a left footer or four again. Kelly seemed to consistently find it on his left on important forays forward. Other instances of Parfitt, dolly, even bews in those pockets.
We've been pretty good over that time, without finals success, better than the majority of teams in our predicament. Gamble was worthwhile from my pov. Tuohy and Hendo have dropped off and Stanley will always be Stanley.
gamble was another parsons.
And agreed, much like oils aint oils, a Stanley will always be a Stanley - unlike any other tools.
 
WCE have tall KF's. We will need Blic in defence, rain or not. Also 2 rucks. Stanley will be fresh and motivated.

Why would he be motivated? He would be shitty at the coach and probably thinking about a trade. There are probably splits in the player group over Scott’s decisions. That is not motivating.


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So can someone explain something to me... How is this game plan supposed to work. Like... if executed properly, what's supposed to happen?

I can't for the life of me work out how continually taking clean possession, holding it up and then turning that into a 50/50 down the line is meant to achieve anything at all?

And why do we literally never switch? How can it ever be statistically better to get stuck on the same wing all night than to try to find a way to break the lines?

Genuine questions. I realise this morning that I straight up don't see how our game plan is even meant to work if executed perfectly.

In Geelongs defence lol

Collingwood are defending the switch last year's grand finals against west coast who probably do it best they even cut them down.

To be honest we lack some quality line breakers or kickers like Stewart

Outside of that I have no idea why haha sucked in
 
I heard Glen Jackovich on the radio this afternoon - and he said ( not in a nasty way ) that after last night that both Joel Selwood and Gary Ablett are finished and done - he actually said it twice

And he ought to know - because as good as he was - he had to pull the pin half way through a season - said the end can come very quick

The few commentators i have listened to re the game - theve all said the same thing - Geelong look horribly slow - thats the constant
 
I heard Glen Jackovich on the radio this afternoon - and he said ( not in a nasty way ) that after last night that both Joel Selwood and Gary Ablett are finished and done - he actually said it twice

And he ought to know - because as good as he was - he had to pull the pin half way through a season - said the end can come very quick

The few commentators i have listened to re the game - theve all said the same thing - Geelong look horribly slow - thats the constant

Wouldn't be so sure on Ablett. He's been caught like that before, fumbled, dropped marks etc.

Selwood is almost toast though.
 
Not sure if you're completely taking the piss or not. I mean your own club said a variation of those words a long time ago.

No not taking the piss i have a soft spot for CATS . I really want you guys to win. The clubs i hate are WCE ,and really hate collingwood and richmond , Carlton.And yes i will be yelling my guts out for you guys to win.i will watch it.
 
No not taking the piss i have a soft spot for CATS . I really want you guys to win. The clubs i hate are WCE ,and really hate collingwood and richmond , Carlton.And yes i will be yelling my guts out for you guys to win.i will watch it.
That's nice and all, but i wouldn't waste your breath on that one. Scott won't learn a thing from the loss to Collingwood, why should he, he hasn't learned from all the teams in the last eight weeks that beat us using those same tactics. I bet the WCE will learn something though, and that's what you need to do to stop the Cats. But Chris Scott, no he doesn't learn, doesn't change, just keeps hoping for the best. He's happy with mediocrity. hey, the cats were minor premiers, Chris Scott thinks that's just great. Well done everyone.
 
I hate to raise this, but post match one of our most senior men Harry Taylor refused to stand in the line for Pendles carry off. He deferred by standing behind it and the rest of his team and then he refused to clap him. It was a horrid lack of sportsmanship and reeked of the attitude of his coach of the last 10 years. Just an observation...

This also coming from the bloke who ran around like a turkey after winning the QF 3 years earlier when Isaac Smith missed post siren. The wheel turn the full circle!! Time to join your coach in the pastoring paddocks, Harry.
 

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