Do the Dogs have an issue with indigenous players?

[Marcel Proust]

 

[Marcel Proust]

$700,000 for 5 years for Martin??!! Am I missing something here? Did the dogs think it was Dustin Martin they were trying to sign?

trying to jack up carlton price perhaps

 

[master bate]

This is silly, the Dogs have an excellent recruiting team who have drafted a number of quality players.

In terms of finals teams (and apologies if I've missed anyone);

West Coast: 3 - 2 local boys
Essendon: 1 - An adopted Victorian who came through their VFL team

Geelong: 3 - all drafted recently
Collingwood: 0

GWS: 1
Dogs:0

Bris: 2 - both traded to the Lions for personal reasons wanting to be in Brisbane
Rich: 3 - 1 veteran player, 2 drafted recently with high(ish) picks

Without a large Indigenous population in Victoria there's not going to be a lot of Indigenous players traded to Vic sides - it's unlikely to see a go home factor - and when those players come up there will be a lot of competition for them if they are good players. The Dogs seemed to have missed out but that's just how it goes sometimes. Similarly all a club can ask their recruiters to do is to pick good players and the Dogs have done that. If their draft picks had fallen in different spots they might've picked a bunch of Indigenous players.

 

[Marcel Proust]

This is silly, the Dogs have an excellent recruiting team who have drafted a number of quality players.

In terms of finals teams (and apologies if I've missed anyone);

West Coast: 3 - 2 local boys
Essendon: 1 - An adopted Victorian who came through their VFL team

Geelong: 3 - all drafted recently
Collingwood: 0

GWS: 1
Dogs:0

Bris: 2 - both traded to the Lions for personal reasons wanting to be in Brisbane
Rich: 3 - 1 veteran player, 2 drafted recently with high(ish) picks

Without a large Indigenous population in Victoria there's not going to be a lot of Indigenous players traded to Vic sides - it's unlikely to see a go home factor - and when those players come up there will be a lot of competition for them if they are good players. The Dogs seemed to have missed out but that's just how it goes sometimes. Similarly all a club can ask their recruiters to do is to pick good players and the Dogs have done that. If their draft picks had fallen in different spots they might've picked a bunch of Indigenous players.

they dont have to draft them from victoria

 

[Blackhawk42]

Didn't Hawthorn not have an indigenous player in their entire history until Chance Bateman?? I'm sure this is only a temporary thing.
It only takes drafting or rookie listing a young indigenous star to fix that issue and i'm sure if there is a player available who is similar to Jack Martin in the draft then the Dogs will consider it.

 

[The Swert]

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It's a shame that the other players didn't greet him too.

 

[Marcel Proust]

It's a shame that the other players didn't greet him too.

i think almost every aboriginal (and african) on the list did

and there are a lot of them

 

[hilly]

Suspect it's a consideration but not a major one. Problem is more their fanbase - once booed Majak Daw an entire game for a fair hip and shoulder (no free awarded, no remonstration).

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

GWS: 1
Dogs:0

Zac Williams
Jeremy Finlayson

=2

 

[Chism]

trying to jack up carlton price perhaps

Didn't work and we stuck to our guns which was well below the Dogs offer.

Happy he chose us on a reduced salary honestly and is not just chasing the money but more team environment on where he thinks he will fit in the best.

He has huge upside and i know most Carlton supporters are welcoming him with open arms in what is our greatest area of need talent wise regarding small forwards who are versatile and can play elsewhere.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Didn't work and we stuck to our guns which was well below the Dogs offer.

Happy he chose us on a reduced salary honestly and is not just chasing the money but more team environment on where he thinks he will fit in the best.

He has huge upside and i know most Carlton supporters are welcoming him with open arms in what is our greatest area of need talent wise regarding small forwards who are versatile and can play elsewhere.

I can envision Jack M tearing it up from the wing and deliving the pill, lace out into the arms of Harry or Charlie. Will sell more sweets than the Candyman from Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Love his swag and evasive manouevers.

 

[Anja_Nees]

In 2006 we took Stack, Lynch, Hill and Harbrow in one draft.

A few years later, to mentor them we took Brett Goodes on as welfare manager.

Ironically, shortly after, all four left for various reasons and we recruited Goodes onto the list so Goodes was an abject failure as a tool for retaining players.

 

[Stev0]

A better question: Is there any evidence to prove they have an 'issue'?

 

[ioppolo]

Why not just draft and trade in the best footballers you can find, rather than by race? If your best team is 22 white blokes or 11 Asians and 11 Irishmen then so be it.

 

[Kwality]

Didn't work and we stuck to our guns which was well below the Dogs offer.

Happy he chose us on a reduced salary honestly and is not just chasing the money but more team environment on where he thinks he will fit in the best.

He has huge upside and i know most Carlton supporters are welcoming him with open arms in what is our greatest area of need talent wise regarding small forwards who are versatile and can play elsewhere.

Wouldnt be a better Carlton story if you made it all up.

 

[SunshineBoy]

trying to jack up carlton price perhaps

Will end up at north

 

[The Swert]

i think almost every aboriginal (and african) on the list did

and there are a lot of them

Why not the white players?
Enclaving at arrival to the club.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Mark West was a pretty decent player for the Bullies

It's not like they have a blatant racist 'no black fellas' recruiting policies a certain Melbourne based club had until the 90s.

Bloke was a wrecking ball, wish we still had that enforcer running around for us.

 

[ash_1050]

Indigenous players tend to enjoy playing together which is totally understandable. Having a respected mature age indigenous player joining the Dogs team would help to attract more talent, as would drafting two or three indigenous players in the same draft. However until they do so it's not an 'issue' as such having a lack of indigenous players at the club.

Teams like Essendon and Richmond have generally not had a problem recruiting indigenous players to the club as they have a long established history of close ties with the community, whereas the Dogs haven't quite got the same reputation yet but this will no doubt change with time.

 

[romeohwho]

No- silly thread.

 

[TripleJay]

Footballer is a footballer to me mate, I don't feel the need to obtain DNA samples.

I agree. I was criticising people obsessed with labelling others and how they go about it. Not criticising you.

 

[Credit2thaB0is]

Red, white and blue is a colour combination that could, at least subconsciously, represent racism to indigenous people hence their aversion to WB.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Bris: 2 - both traded to the Lions for personal reasons wanting to be in Brisbane

3. Christensen, Cameron, Cox.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Bulldogs are racist? Sure let’s run with that

 

[Juddernaut08]

lol.