Fair enough, I'm just hoping this won't be a worst case scenario.I think any anomaly in the sample would result in a provisional suspension. That's the process they take.
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Fair enough, I'm just hoping this won't be a worst case scenario.I think any anomaly in the sample would result in a provisional suspension. That's the process they take.
Pfft..who hasnt worn a fake penis?
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Maybe, the tester, noticed shenanigans, and reported it, as they should.
So surely it's a diluted sample? Sounds near impossible to tamper with during the sampling.
So surely it's a diluted sample? Sounds near impossible to tamper with during the sampling.
Maybe, the tester, noticed shenanigans, and reported it, as they should.
I'm just pi**ed at Rioli. WC already have a bad name for this s**t from our past, and now we got to go through it all again. Yeah I know he's hurting and would be having a terrible time of it. But FFS Rioli, what the fu** were you thinking?
Hats off to Joey, good to hear inside infoJust heard Joey Montagna on AFL tonight. Reckons to put the brakes on, because if the ASADA rep did his job right should not.be possible.for Willie to tamper w it. Said you pull underwear down to ankles and lift shirt up.and the rep.watches the stream come out of your penis. Hopefully some kind of Seinfeld lab contamination. Fingers crossed.
That is my take on this, Willi's reaction of being so distraught doesnt point to someone who is unlucky to be caught cheating but to somone who cant believe what the hell is going on. They should test him again and if he is clean he should play. (But we all know this wont happen). Has to be Innocent until proven guilty.You'd arguably be more devastated if you were innocent because there's no way this gets fully investigated and overturned in the next month.
I’m an accredited tester. Now unless ASADAs protocols are demonstrably different to mine sites it’s actually not possible to water down samples.
Your supposed to put a coloured dye into a toilet to stop the water being used to dilute a sample and your supposed to put tape over basin taps so they can’t be turned on to dilute the sample.
That ex-Richmond player. Cousins.
I can really relate to your post mate.
My Club are experts at doing dumbarse shi& that often stuffs up our season.......it makes no sense to me that players can be so dumb.
I have always rated your team even when my mate in WA who is a WC supporter just texted me to say it is a Victorian conspiracy with Willie.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
Did you find him expensive?Gives me a good laugh when I see posters bagging David Grace QC on this board for some tribunal results.
Have never in my life seen a better lawyer in Court - absolutely top of his game.
Thats not the way PED on sport work for obvious reasons. As for Willi being distraught - this is his lifeHats off to Joey, good to hear inside info
That is my take on this, Willi's reaction of being so distraught doesnt point to someone who is unlucky to be caught cheating but to somone who cant believe what the hell is going on. They should test him again and if he is clean he should play. (But we all know this wont happen). Has to be Innocent until proven guilty.
David Grace QC to ASADA rep...
"so Rioli pulled his pants down and lifted his shirt and you observed him provide the sample. No? So you didn't follow procedure? What happens to the sample afterwards..."
Or
"Yes? So how then can you allege tampering as you have just explained to the court that that is impossible"....
If this is the case and the sample was contaminated elsewhere...than how can Willie be suspended.Hats off to Joey, good to hear inside info
That is my take on this, Willi's reaction of being so distraught doesnt point to someone who is unlucky to be caught cheating but to somone who cant believe what the hell is going on. They should test him again and if he is clean he should play. (But we all know this wont happen). Has to be Innocent until proven guilty.
If he'd added water to the cup, which is basically impossible to do a drug test of any description, the tester would have picked it up straight away with a "dip-stick" that is there specifically to test for excess water/weak urine
Impossible he could have added another person's urine as well with the tester right there, the whole thing just doesn't compute
I’m an accredited tester. Now unless ASADAs protocols are demonstrably different to mine sites it’s actually not possible to water down samples.
Your supposed to put a coloured dye into a toilet to stop the water being used to dilute a sample and your supposed to put tape over basin taps so they can’t be turned on to dilute the sample.
That's what it sounds like. But how, when and where?
Nope.
From ASADA's own guidelines:
"Once notified of selection for testing, the athlete must remain in direct observation of the DCO or Chaperone until the DCO is satisfied that the sample collection procedure is complete.
Any attempt to evade notification may result in an anti‑doping rule violation and a ban from sport."
Rioli was charged with a violation because of the contents of his sample. If he tried to dodge a test or the tester thought he was up to no good during the test he would've been banned before the Hawthorn game.
The $64,000 question is what is in his sample that has ASADA jimmies rustled and how did it get there?
When it comes out it will be fairly logical to see whats what and why.
Where did we play a game or two prior to the Tigers game?