Preview P.F. vs. GWS (Sat 21/09 4:35pm MCG) In: Reid/Aish, Out: JDG/Levi. Teams #1523

[jmac70]

I’m surprised they’ve brought in Keeffe over Buntine

Keefe eats bum times for breakfast

 

[swoop42]

Leaving Roughead in defence was the right call against Geelong and bringing in Reid to replace de Goey is the right selection decision for the game against GWS.

Well done.

 

[NeverWobble]

I’m more worried about this than I should be, but when I saw Ian Hill, I legitimately thought who the fu** is that guy?

No Ian Hill on the Giant's player list, only a Bobby Hill. What are they up to?

 

[jimmy35]

Should be a good game. Some of the best young talent in the comp, shame about Whitfield and De Goey, and the pressure of a Prelim. The time is friendly for me, can watch it with a few frothies after golf!

Yeah I’m liking the time as well. Get my Saturday s**t done early, get onto a few fish and a few beers on the way home and then hit the tv.

 

[domus]

I can accept Aish over the likes of Varcoe. But Reid represent huge risk in a prelim. He might get through the game, or might break down 10 minutes in.




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Bucks said Reid has been working hard for the past four weeks and it seems to me they were getting him cherry ripe for this exact contingency. Once we knew Coxy was gone and knowing how Bucks wants the two talls structure-this would have been the plan for weeks.

 

[domus]

id prefer to play another mid and just open up the forward line

i just dont want to be 1 man down halfway thru the 2nd quarter....

Five smalls and one tall is no way to win a final. Richmond got away with it, largely on the back of one man-Dusty. Nick Riewoldt recently pointed out, they jumped at the chance to secure a second tall as soon as they could. They knew their game style was unsustainable.

 

[Daicos Daze]

We should name Mick Gatto to discourage the Giants from killing half our players.

Well Mick is a Mad Collingwood supporter
So don’t be surprised if some members of GWS get rubbed out during the match

Oils ain’t Oils. Sol

 

[whiskeytown]

People are really up in arms about Aish over Shaz because of their 195cm plus forwards?

Do people realise that they have 3 (Cameron, Himmelberg, Finlayson) and that we have Howe, Moore & Roughead...? And that last game Moore didn’t play ... that extra KPD we were missing IS Moore.

You want 4 KPD Players to cover 3 KPF’s... right. We’ll just ignore the rest of their smaller sized forwards. It would almost be as stupid of a move as Appleby last time we played them.

Who do you people suggest Shaz plays on - Daniels ? Lloyd ? Give me a spell. Stop and have a think about what you post

Cameron 196cm 94kg 72goals
Finlayson 196cm 91kg 37 goals
Himmelberg. 194cm 92kg 27 goals

and they've now added 200cm+ Keefe to play 2nd ruck-forward to replace Greene.

We've got Moore and Roughead for two of those players... but if you think Howe at 190cm 86 kg and Aish at 183cm are great matchups then on the likes of Himmelberg and Keefe... then the jokes on you.

Even more so because of the unnecessary arrogance and misguided sense of superiority to your post.

 

[NeverWobble]

It's interesting how perceptions of tall forwards change depending on whether they're playing for us or the opposition. If we played 3, let alone 4 tall forwards, we're worried that we'll be too slow and will lack defensive pressure and get killed on the rebound. If the opposition plays 3 or 4 tall forwards we're worried that we are too small and will get outmarked at every opportunity. Roughy and Moore are taller than most forwards and we have Howe, Crisp and Maynard around 190cm. One of Reid or Mihocek could also go back in an emergency. I think GWS' marking power is probably more significant long down the line or when they've locked it in their forward 50 and can set up for high get out of jail kicks.

 

[jmac70]

Cameron 196cm 94kg 72goals
Finlayson 196cm 91kg 37 goals
Himmelberg. 194cm 92kg 27 goals

and they've now added 200cm+ Keefe to play 2nd ruck-forward to replace Greene.

We've got Moore and Roughead for two of those players... but if you think Howe at 190cm 86 kg and Aish at 183cm are great matchups then on the likes of Himmelberg and Keefe... then the jokes on you.

Even more so because of the unnecessary arrogance and misguided sense of superiority to your post.

We also have Maynard.

 

[JC83]

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Cameron 196cm 94kg 72goals
Finlayson 196cm 91kg 37 goals
Himmelberg. 194cm 92kg 27 goals

and they've now added 200cm+ Keefe to play 2nd ruck-forward to replace Greene.

We've got Moore and Roughead for two of those players... but if you think Howe at 190cm 86 kg and Aish at 183cm are great matchups then on the likes of Himmelberg and Keefe... then the jokes on you.

Even more so because of the unnecessary arrogance and misguided sense of superiority to your post.

I think we're backing our mids to win the ball first, or at the very least put enough defensive pressure on their mids so their entries are pressured. 4 talls are a big risk unless they're marking everything, and if the forecast is rain I don't see how that's possible, let alone in a Prelim final in front of a hostile black and white crowd.

We will smash them.

 

[partypie]

So i Just wasted my Money going to watch us get Flogged Then?

You managed to find an alternate carer arrangement so you can see the game live? Top stuff Dave!

 

[nahnah]

Cameron 196cm 94kg 72goals
Finlayson 196cm 91kg 37 goals
Himmelberg. 194cm 92kg 27 goals

and they've now added 200cm+ Keefe to play 2nd ruck-forward to replace Greene.

We've got Moore and Roughead for two of those players... but if you think Howe at 190cm 86 kg and Aish at 183cm are great matchups then on the likes of Himmelberg and Keefe... then the jokes on you.

Even more so because of the unnecessary arrogance and misguided sense of superiority to your post.

Roughy takes whoever is closest to goal and Howe and Moore take the other 2. It’s not that hard.

 

[swoop42]

It makes perfect sense that we have replaced one small defender in Greenwood with Aish for team balance.

Bad luck for Scharenberg but the reality is if we get past the Giants then Aish is more suited to the Richmond or Geelong forward line also.

 

[Antz]

Five smalls and one tall is no way to win a final. Richmond got away with it, largely on the back of one man-Dusty. Nick Riewoldt recently pointed out, they jumped at the chance to secure a second tall as soon as they could. They knew their game style was unsustainable.

I agree but if it's going to rain on Saturday an extra small may be the way to go.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Keefe eats bum times for breakfast

It's a relief that he can do something. He certainly can't play football.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Haha. Nah, he was playing great footy earlier this year and plays a brand that works in finals.

That must be why he’s been dropped four times this season

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Worst comes to worst we have Reid and Checkers both capable defenders... but generally I think if you lose to a team with 4 tall forwards you’ve lost the game in the midfield

Yep we need to closely tag Deledio Colognio and Whitfield

 

[Visions]

i just dont understand the Reid move. not one bit

I’m fearful that he’s going to ping something during the game, but it was the right choice to bring him in.
If you saw how Davis and co. repelled every attack by Brisbane last week in the last quarter because there were no Brisbane talls to contest, then you would understand we need a tall up forward to at least give a contest. Would have gone in too small otherwise. And since we don’t have anyone else without robbing our backline, Reid is the obvious candidate.

 

[Daicos Daze]

He’s a forward. We need a forward.

Reid has football smarts
A great selection
and can swing Ruck or Back
Varcoe cannot play Ruck or Shaz

Very clever by coaching staff
Take this WIN to the Bank

 

[Daicos Daze]

Im drooling at the rebound opportunities for crisp aish and Maynard

Watch the replay against lions
Mumford is fried
Grundy will Monster him
and Keefe will be barking like a dog with no bite

 

[Johno9911]

I wouldn't be overly surprised if there's a late change and we see Shaz come in. Keefe coming in leaves them with 3 tall forwards and a resting ruck, and us with Moore, Rough and Howe. Think Shaz will come in and pick up the ruckman, or alternatively free up one of of Howe and Moore to intercept.

I reckon it will also be dependant on weather.

 

[sr36]

Keefe eats bum times for breakfast

Not sure if I would have gone with "eats .. for breakfast" if I was to change his name like that.

 

[sr36]

I wouldn't be overly surprised if there's a late change and we see Shaz come in. Keefe coming in leaves them with 3 tall forwards and a resting ruck, and us with Moore, Rough and Howe. Think Shaz will come in and pick up the ruckman, or alternatively free up one of of Howe and Moore to intercept.

I reckon it will also be dependant on weather.

Crisp to Keeffe to run rings around him and make them pay if they go with 4 talls up forward.

 

[Aussie pie]

Not often I say this but the selectors got it spot on.