Analysis Stadium deals - what, how, when - why we need a new one and the SA footy paradigm shift happening

[Forzaport]

The Hotel thing is absurd I can't take these ppl seriously.

If the hotel goes ahead, the following will happen:
1) overheads at Adelaide Oval will sky rocket.
2) the hotel will be overpriced and mostly empty on non-event days (i.e. most of the year)
3) the SMA will expect the AFL clubs to cover the inevitable shortfall in revenue

The SANFL remains the shining example of how to ruin a state-sponsored monopoly. It beggars belief that they were given a second bite of the cherry at the AO. As an organisation, the SANFL is just not equipped to successfully manage a lemonade stand, let alone a stadium. When all your decisions only accelerate the decline, it's time to hand the reigns to an independent panel with adequate representation from all stakeholders, not just the tin pot grassroots types.

 

[Alberton Proud]

If the hotel goes ahead, the following will happen:
1) overheads at Adelaide Oval will sky rocket.
2) the hotel will be overpriced and mostly empty on non-event days (i.e. most of the year)
3) the SMA will expect the AFL clubs to cover the inevitable shortfall in revenue

The SANFL remains the shining example of how to ruin a state-sponsored monopoly. It beggars belief that they were given a second bite of the cherry at the AO. As an organisation, the SANFL is just not equipped to successfully manage a lemonade stand, let alone a stadium. When all your decisions only accelerate the decline, it's time to hand the reigns to an independent panel with adequate representation from all stakeholders, not just the tin pot grassroots types.

 

[NTRabbit]

With the state Liberals deliberately sinking the Commonwealth Games bid, there's now certainly not going to be any more tram extensions without a change of government, to the Oval or anywhere else, so that's two more knocks on this hotel

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

I‘m so confused by this hotel s**t, why would SACA and SANFL get any direct funds from a ******* hotel the government is paying for

 

[Rexie J]

I‘m so confused by this hotel s**t, why would SACA and SANFL get any direct funds from a ******* hotel the government is paying for

May I suggest 'why should SACA SANFL get any direct funds............."

 

[bomberclifford]

I‘m so confused by this hotel s**t, why would SACA and SANFL get any direct funds from a ******* hotel the government is paying for

I’m also confused at how quickly this thing has been proposed, funded and approved.

It’s so outrageously ‘unAdelaide’ that it makes me very suspicious of what’s actually going on.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

I’m also confused at how quickly this thing has been proposed, funded and approved.

It’s so outrageously ‘unAdelaide’ that it makes me very suspicious of what’s actually going on.

next minute the Crows buy operating rights to the hotel for $1

 

[Rexie J]

I’m also confused at how quickly this thing has been proposed, funded and approved.

It’s so outrageously ‘unAdelaide’ that it makes me very suspicious of what’s actually going on.

Agreed.

It's beyond comprehension how any person or persons with expertise within the hospitality industry would suggest this hotel will ever be a profitable enterprise.

In an ealier life, I suppled the sector so only too aware of how many go bust.

As I live in Olson territory, our very active local member asked for any suggestions he should raise about any issues.

My reply was, "dump Hurley and Olson and get them out of the SMA and sanfl". No reply but I believe Hurley is heading to QLD.

 

[Jonts]

Wait they actually approves that hotel?

Ffs.

 

[PowerBaz]

next minute the Crows buy operating rights to the hotel for $1

Crows will have built their club rooms by then, maybe they will go for a hotel too?
Port feels like the poor bloke down the rd who can't get out of the gutter.

 

[PowerBaz]

Wait they actually approves that hotel?

Ffs.

Long ago.....

 

[Workingclass]

Agreed.

It's beyond comprehension how any person or persons with expertise within the hospitality industry would suggest this hotel will ever be a profitable enterprise.

In an ealier life, I suppled the sector so only too aware of how many go bust.

As I live in Olson territory, our very active local member asked for any suggestions he should raise about any issues.

My reply was, "dump Hurley and Olson and get them out of the SMA and sanfl". No reply but I believe Hurley is heading to QLD.

Mr Motorola masterminded Stephen Marshall's election and is in debt for life. I'm told watching relevant scenes from Rosemary's Baby provides an accurate reference point.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I‘m so confused by this hotel s**t, why would SACA and SANFL get any direct funds from a ******* hotel the government is paying for

It's been a long time since you lived in South Australia, hasn't it?

 

[simba_]

so not only will they continue to leech money from every patron who enters the ground for any sport but now anybody who stays at that hotel when over here

 

[Jonts]

Long ago.....

Jesus Christ this is going to be a disaster

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

so not only will they continue to leech money from every patron who enters the ground for any sport but now anybody who stays at that hotel when over here

why would anyone stay at that hotel tho, the oval is the only thing its near

 

[simba_]

why would anyone stay at that hotel tho, the oval is the only thing its near

i imagine corporate packages would be a big part of it, all the chubby wealthy men who want to "avoid the riff raff" "get in get out" of the city. it is "just a short walk from the shops". it's like a massive extension on the Audi Club for people to be pampered and overpay for a Deluxe Experience. it's like a nightmare.

 

[bomberclifford]

I could see the hotel getting used a bit during test matches. Other than that though, not sure why anyone would stay there.

 

[Papa G]

why would anyone stay at that hotel tho, the oval is the only thing its near

Completely dead part of town. Parklands, A big church, an empty stadium and a couple of hospitals.

 

[Papa G]

From what I understand the rooms won't even face the ground, ie you can't watch anything from your room. (I know REH mentioned the couple caught rooting at a baseball game at some stadium in America).

So I'm comparing this to Old Trafford, which has 85 rooms all facing the ground. Rooms during the Ashes started from 499 quid a night. Would obviously be cheaper at other times, but those county grounds get a lot more cricket than ours do. Also, given it's proximity to the Man U football ground, I dare say the place would be pretty busy during the winter months too. Man U is a global brand. The business case stacks up.

None of these things stack up for a hotel at AO. None.

 

[Macca19]

In the pro column is its a decent location.

Thats where the pro column ends. You just know it will be over the top expensive, it will price the average joe out of it. I dont get why anyone would want to stay there. Its a ******* stupid idea

 

[bomberclifford]

Cricket - summer
Football - winter
Concerts - ad hoc
Rugby Sevens - rare
NRL - rare
Exhibition games - rare

Anything else?

 

[Duckimus Prime]

In the pro column is its a decent location.

I don't think the location is a pro for anything but events at Adelaide Oval. For the Convention Centre there's better located hotels on the otherside of the Torrens. For the March festivals during the year, there's better in the CBD.

 

[Papa G]

Except its not near anything except Adelaide Oval. For the Convention Centre there's better located hotels on the otherside of the Torrens.

Yep. At a city hotel you expect to be near bars and restaurants. O'Connell Street, Melbourne Street, the city are all a fairly reasonable hike away.

 

[VineValerian]

The SANFL remains the shining example of how to ruin a state-sponsored monopoly. It beggars belief that they were given a second bite of the cherry at the AO. As an organisation, the SANFL is just not equipped to successfully manage a lemonade stand, let alone a stadium.

Carn mate.

I know for a fact that they do have the expertise to operate a lemonade stand. As long as they have the monopoly on it versus every competitor within a 10Km radius.