List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part III

[Winmar2Lockett]

Bruce for Jones essentially.

I’m not sure we are better off there.

The echo chamber of AFL media... Ralph says it so Cheeseburger runs with it then it gets picked up by someone else until it becomes fact. Rinse and repeat, change the clubs name & players involved.

Just like Brad Scott will be our coach.




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[BrutThough]

I'd say that's the definition of dilution. Turn your better players into beige. The forward line is the least of our problems so we take a problem in the midfield and shift it to the forward line. Keath is bland, Jones is like a speedier Dunny. I like Dunny but I'm not selling the farm for him.

How is a second round pick for Jones selling the farm?

 

[Mowman]

How is a second round pick for Jones selling the farm?

Its only a small farm ?

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

But the quality of the contract probably does.

Not really. Everyone still carries on about Buddy getting the Hawks pick 19. His mega deal didn’t change the fact that he was band 1 & #19 was the best the Hawks could get.


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[Grav]

Like the Bruce, but in all seriousness he is not a smart full forward. Gets into a battle with the defenders & doesn’t know how to push of from them, hence he doesn’t recieve many frees as the umps reckons they are both in it. Will miss his work around the ground, but if we get a half decent offer, we should take it.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That would place him in band 3 for the compo - which is what the Dogs got for Dahlhaus last year, North got for Wells 2 years ago and Freo got for Mayne 2 years ago.

They take into consideration age, games played and contract offered - Newnes being young in the FA scale helps us, he's plays regular games which suits us and an average contract would also suit us.

Surely he'd be on an average contract with us, and he'd be after a bit more to go elsewhere, though i guess a bit more than average still comes in at a similar band.

 

[gringo2011]

How is a second round pick for Jones selling the farm?

When it's for Bruce to get it.

 

[Indie Rock]

Honestly don't see why people are whinging about Zak Jones, instant upgrade on Newnes. Has pace, probably similar reliability kick and can find the ball more than Newnes.

I agree with you, am pretty excited about the prospect of having his toughness and speed in the middle.

Not as a straight swap for Bruce (or something like that) as reported I hope, but he does improve us. If it’s a straight swap for Newnes then .

 

[Indie Rock]

Hey guys any news on Jack Newnes? Close to re-signing or will he leave?

I think we are mostly assuming he is gone.

 

[billings2paddy]

Probably been mentioned but what about a trade involving and possibly some picks etc
Tim Kelly freo
Hill st kilda
Steven Geelong

 

[gringo2011]

Probably been mentioned but what about a trade involving and possibly some picks etc
Tim Kelly freo
Hill st kilda
Steven Geelong

Probably been mentioned but what about a trade involving and possibly some picks etc
Tim Kelly freo
Hill st kilda
Steven Geelong

The way Kelly is playing he's worth Hill, Steven and a couple of first round picks. He's a gun.

 

[BrutThough]

When it's for Bruce to get it.

I think it's more likely we will use Newnes compo for Jones instead everything we get for Bruce.

 

[BrutThough]

Probably been mentioned but what about a trade involving and possibly some picks etc
Tim Kelly freo
Hill st kilda
Steven Geelong

Kelly only wants to play for West Coast

 

[kernelT]

The way Kelly is playing he's worth Hill, Steven and a couple of first round picks. He's a gun.

He honestly is worth Steven, Hill and a first.

An elite, ball winning, goal kicking, inside out mid. Very rare combination.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'd say that's the definition of dilution. Turn your better players into beige. The forward line is the least of our problems so we take a problem in the midfield and shift it to the forward line. Keath is bland, Jones is like a speedier Dunny. I like Dunny but I'm not selling the farm for him.

He can't get the ball like Dunstan can.
Though.....its possible if he plays there full time.

On Hogan...he's great...sometimes. Bruce is more consistent.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Kelly only wants to play for West Coast

Gee and he's got the right to demand that?

 

[BrutThough]

Gee and he's got the right to demand that?

Pretty much. He is uncontracted so Geelong can't hold him and if Kelly is unwilling to play anywhere else, then Geelong need to work out a deal otherwise risk losing him for nothing.

 

[St Neil]

I think it's more likely we will use Newnes compo for Jones instead everything we get for Bruce.

I think that is what will exactly happen.

Not sure how get Keath but if Bruce stays then we don’t need him. And unless the Bulldogs want to part with their 1st RDP then Bruce surely stays.

It’s hard to believe the Bulldogs would offer a lucrative 4 year deal then not follow through in a trade.

 

[Therealsaint]

When it's for Bruce to get it.

You clearly overrate bruce......

 

[tbarker]

I think that is what will exactly happen.

Not sure how get Keath but if Bruce stays then we don’t need him. And unless the Bulldogs want to part with their 1st RDP then Bruce surely stays.

It’s hard to believe the Bulldogs would offer a lucrative 4 year deal then not follow through in a trade.

Re Bruce - clubs offer those deals all the time and the deal can’t be done.

A question for the board - why would wouldn’t we simply swap Newnes for Jones? Or is Newnes not going to the Swans?


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[Diehard Saint]

It’s hard to believe the Bulldogs would offer a lucrative 4 year deal then not follow through in a trade.

A bit like us and Hill?

 

[Premium]

If we get Brad Hill , Brad Crouch , Zac Jones and Keath we are top 4 and flag contenders.

 

[Mowman]

If we get Brad Hill , Brad Crouch , Zac Jones and Keath we are top 4 and flag contenders.

Say What

 

[Diehard Saint]

If we get Brad Hill , Brad Crouch , Zac Jones and Keath we are top 4 and flag contenders.

Crouch will stay at the Crows. Using us to boost his contract imo.

 

[BrutThough]

Re Bruce - clubs offer those deals all the time and the deal can’t be done.

A question for the board - why would wouldn’t we simply swap Newnes for Jones? Or is Newnes not going to the Swans?


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No idea where Newnes is going but since he is a Free Agent, if he went to Sydney then they could get him plus a pick for Jones where a straight swap would just give them a player.