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Its not your fault mate. I've read it 100 times and still have no idea what he was trying to say.Sorry, thought you said 5 out of the last 20 games.
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Its not your fault mate. I've read it 100 times and still have no idea what he was trying to say.Sorry, thought you said 5 out of the last 20 games.
The only way to show people are disenfranchised with the current arrangement is to turn up and support it en mass.
The current agreements with the government/TT-Line, AFL Tasmania and Cricket Tasmania are economic agreements, all those stakeholders get something out of it, if they didn't then we wouldn't be playing there. Those who support North or other clubs we play there get to see live games, they get something out of it too.
Then there is the majority of Tasmania who do not take any part of it, but want their own team. What platform do they have to achieve their goals? Bitching on forums isn't working. Academics whining on newspapers isn't working. High profile Tasmanians bitching on tv isn't working.
The current strategy just isn't working. I think the only short-term hope is for those who want their own team to make their presence felt and the most obvious way would be to go to the North and Hawks games and show there is a lot more interest in football than the crowds or the surveys suggest there is.
Your post makes me think 2 things.It actually is working. Our first realistic push at getting a professional Australian rules football team has come as a direct result of the government-appointed taskforce (advised by Gil McLachlan himself). The reason we know about it is high profile Tasmanians "bitching" to the media about it, and I'm certain that the case to be presented to the AFL will be the findings of those "whining" academics.
Your alternative solution appears to be for Tasmanians to attend these exhibition games of North Melbourne and Hawthorn, but we all know that when crowds are doing well, we'll hear the age-old argument that Tasmania doesn't need a team because they're clearly happy with the current arrangement.
There are over 91,000 paying members for AFL clubs in Tasmania, and yet crowds sit between 10-15k. What's the more likely answer for this?:
- Tasmanians are dumber than we thought and are happy to contribute financially to the AFL and gain nothing from it because they hate football but love big, soulless corporations
- Tasmania is not located in Melbourne's northern or eastern suburbs, and therefore Tasmanians are not content with supporting two foreign clubs bringing their smallest, non-rivalry games to the state only for their own financial benefit
Although the first answer is pretty enticing, I can assure you it's the second one. I think it's disingenuous to suggest that Tasmanians need to vote with their feet in a state where almost 20% of the population are financial contributors to AFL clubs. We've already voted, and we voted with our wallets. I love North Melbourne, and I'll be a member until the day I die, but given the chance as a kid I would have been a proud Tasmania supporter. The Tasmanian kids of today (and future generations) have a chance here to grow up with an AFL team of their own. There's no reason that 91,000 mainland club memberships that exist today can't be 100,000 Tasmanian Devils memberships tomorrow.
Any talk of North/Hawks crowd numbers having any bearing on the feasibility of a Tasmanian AFL team is pure fluff. Anyway, that's my last post on this topic (on this forum) for the time being. It was a great deal for North (and Hawthorn) at the time, and now it's time for it to end.
Your post makes me think 2 things.
1) NMFC should reduce the amount of sold games to 3 immediately.
2) NMFC should only play interstate sides in Hobart ever.
North should have never moved to 4 games to begin with. Reducing to 3 is good, but it's delaying the inevitable. They'll eventually move to 0 (or 11, if the AFL goes insane again and wants everyone to lose). What's your reasoning for #2?
It actually is working. Our first realistic push at getting a professional Australian rules football team has come as a direct result of the government-appointed taskforce (advised by Gil McLachlan himself). The reason we know about it is high profile Tasmanians "bitching" to the media about it, and I'm certain that the case to be presented to the AFL will be the findings of those "whining" academics.
Your alternative solution appears to be for Tasmanians to attend these exhibition games of North Melbourne and Hawthorn, but we all know that when crowds are doing well, we'll hear the age-old argument that Tasmania doesn't need a team because they're clearly happy with the current arrangement.
There are over 91,000 paying members for AFL clubs in Tasmania, and yet crowds sit between 10-15k. What's the more likely answer for this?:
- Tasmanians are dumber than we thought and are happy to contribute financially to the AFL and gain nothing from it because they hate football but love big, soulless corporations
- Tasmania is not located in Melbourne's northern or eastern suburbs, and therefore Tasmanians are not content with supporting two foreign clubs bringing their smallest, non-rivalry games to the state only for their own financial benefit
Although the first answer is pretty enticing, I can assure you it's the second one. I think it's disingenuous to suggest that Tasmanians need to vote with their feet in a state where almost 20% of the population are financial contributors to AFL clubs.
We've already voted, and we voted with our wallets. I love North Melbourne, and I'll be a member until the day I die, but given the chance as a kid I would have been a proud Tasmania supporter. The Tasmanian kids of today (and future generations) have a chance here to grow up with an AFL team of their own. There's no reason that 91,000 mainland club memberships that exist today can't be 100,000 Tasmanian Devils memberships tomorrow.
Any talk of North/Hawks crowd numbers having any bearing on the feasibility of a Tasmanian AFL team is pure fluff. Anyway, that's my last post on this topic (on this forum) for the time being. It was a great deal for North (and Hawthorn) at the time, and now it's time for it to end.
VFL didn't get 48k.Attendance: 4423
Must have been counted by the bloke who used to do the Sydney Swans games.Attendance: 4423
Attendance: 4423
This years attendance: 4692
There's been a massive rise!
It constitutes an approximate 6% increase.
I'm actually pretty bullish about their prospects now. If Tasmanian attendances can continue compounding at an annual 6% in 25 years they'll crack the "magical" 20k ceiling.
Before you guffaw, they said no one would achieve a four minute mile before Bannister made short work of it. You gotta believe.
A Tasmanian AFL team would NEVER stand on its own and post a surplus.
They moralise about "deserving" a football team, but the cold hard numbers just aren't there.
The only way it happens is if the AFL decide to carry it, but personally I reckon it would be Gold Coast MK II.
Federal Sport Minister Richard Colbeck has thrown his support behind Tasmania’s bid to join the AFL
VFL didn't get 48k.
Time to send clubs outta Melbourne.
Considering Melbourne is one of the world' fastest growing cities, that's probably a good place to start.
Absolutely. Lets start with the good old druggies, *essendon. Can't think of a better team to send there.
Who will pay for it?A new 30000 all seat stadium has been proposed for Hobarts Macquarie point,the details of that will be presented to the AFL when we present our bid at year's end.
VFL didn't get 48k.
Time to send clubs outta Melbourne.
A Tasmanian AFL team would NEVER stand on its own and post a surplus.
They moralise about "deserving" a football team, but the cold hard numbers just aren't there.
The only way it happens is if the AFL decide to carry it, but personally I reckon it would be Gold Coast MK II.