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Even the majority of Bulldogs supporters don’t see them getting Keath and Bruce, without losing their first.

Crows will give Keath and P28 for P13

Bulldogs will give P28 for Bruce, which Lethean alluded might be enough.

Crows give future 4th or late pick for Betts and Greenwood for 20.

Late pick for Betts or future 4th which will be used for Frampton

This leaves us with 4,13,20,23,48 and a futures depending on above scenarios.



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They clearly will want to keep their first

St Kilda may get picks for Steven and others I think they will see what currency they have to swap back and have a play

Lot to play out before everyone knows what they have

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The camp was in 2018. So couldn’t have been the reason we sucked in 2017GF.
Oops. Yes 2018 was the year wrecked by the camp.

Oh and for the record, I don't think we choked in 2017. I think we underestimated just how good Richmond were. The last few years have demonstrated that. Again another indication as to the poor decision making by Burton etc... around the camp. They decided the GF loss was the players fault and needed 'toughening up' mentally. In fact, Richmond were just too good. It's that simple.
To think that it was entirely our fault gave no credit to Richmond.
To think that we could just roll it back with the same team for the next 2 years and then win it again showed zero respect to Richmond.

It just showed how arrogant we were.
 

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At the Best and Fairest Otto said that “we need to get back to loving each other” so there is definitely something happening with the players and a divide. Sucks to see my club like this.

I know Hawks have been the modern template but given the cultural issues we should be targeting a coach/panel with recent experience at a club with massive successful cultural turnaround: Richmond, Collingwood, even Glenelg.

Caracella, McRae, Leppitsch, Stone
 
At the Best and Fairest Otto said that “we need to get back to loving each other” so there is definitely something happening with the players and a divide. Sucks to see my club like this.

In fact it could have even been Sloaney who said this. Either way one of the players said in in front of everyone on the microphone at the best and fairest. Telling.
 
Who here thinks that?
Check the camp thread.
There’s plenty of people that think it’s all a massive beat up and or the players should harden up.
 
He was definitely dropped due to his form. Was absolutely terrible this season and never got going. And that would be due to his around 2wks of pre-season he was able to do. Sadly with out a full pre-season (due to his b-ball background) he can’t keep up. When fit and firing best 22 all the way.

Given the performances put in by those who have a football background and had got a full pre-season in, he was probably a bit unlucky.

When fit and firing he's comfortably in our top 10 IMO.
 
Oops. Yes 2018 was the year wrecked by the camp.

Oh and for the record, I don't think we choked in 2017. I think we underestimated just how good Richmond were. The last few years have demonstrated that. Again another indication as to the poor decision making by Burton etc... around the camp. They decided the GF loss was the players fault and needed 'toughening up' mentally. In fact, Richmond were just too good. It's that simple.
To think that it was entirely our fault gave no credit to Richmond.
To think that we could just roll it back with the same team for the next 2 years and then win it again showed zero respect to Richmond.

It just showed how arrogant we were.
Didn't someone mention here that the review found the club lacking in opposition analysis?

I guess we'll find out before 14 days
 
Even the majority of Bulldogs supporters don’t see them getting Keath and Bruce, without losing their first.

Crows will give Keath and P28 for P13

Bulldogs will give P28 for Bruce, which Lethean alluded might be enough.

Crows give future 4th or late pick for Betts and Greenwood for 20.

Late pick for Betts or future 4th which will be used for Frampton

This leaves us with 4,13,20,23,48 and a futures depending on above scenarios.



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Agree Pick 28 is the right one.
Bulldogs have great draft prospects next year so this is their year for mature players. They will pay up for them.
Pick 13 becomes pick 14 so valuing Bruce @ 21 and Keath 28 would allow Dogs to do a late pick swap with Saints or send an extra pick in the 50's to the Saints and still have some change.
 
the problem with the camp is Some players were offended, some were not, others were offended by some who were offended by something they deemed inoffensive.. this offended others.

This is how the "Divide" formed. we all walk a razors edge in this respect now. Those responsible for the make up of the camp did not take into consideration the lowest denominator.
 

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FWIW Betts and cam should STFU

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why?

you're not indigenous, so you have absolutely no idea how this affected them
 
FWIW Betts and cam should STFU

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No they should not.

If the club did something to offend them, someone should be held accountable. It is their right to speak up and make sure their wellbeing is being met.

They have ever right, just like you or I do to air any workplace grievances they face. Sweeping it under the carper only makes things worse and gives people power to continue with this nonsensical behaviour.
 

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FWIW Betts and cam should STFU

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Normally I would agree. BUT we need this aired so that the club HAVE to act on it. Saying nothing and letting the club continue to pretend it didn't have an impact and letting those responsible escape scrutiny is the worst that can happen for the AFC.
 
Who gives a toss .. why does that make them different.

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jfc.. if you need that explained, then theres no point in even starting grandpa
 

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