List Mgmt. Do we REALLY have a cap problem? Lets (attempt to) figure it out

[jsdsgn]

I'm sick of the media i.e Tom Browne and his schoolyard friends pushing the agenda of Collingwood being 18 million dollars over the salary cap.
I thought why not lets just apply our expertise guesswork and see what our salary cap is roughly.

If you/we know of an actual figure a player is on, comment it down below and Ill update the list. As we near a completed list, we can calculate and see if we are REALLY as close to the cap as many make out to be. I have a feeling were comfortably under.

If a player is 'reportedly' on for example 400-500k Ill just round it off like I have done with Cox and Mayne already

PLAYING LIST
???k - Adam Treloar
???k - Anton Tohill
???k - Atu Bosenavulagi
???k - Ben Crocker
???k - Ben Reid
???k - Brayden Maynard
???k - Brayden Sier
???k - Brodie Grundy - The Trade Game (TV Show, hereafter 'TTG') has him on 650k to 1mil. Need a more precise figure to average out.
???k - Brody Mihocek
???k - Callum Brown
$550k - Chris Mayne
???k - Darcy Moore - TTG has him on 450k to 900k. Need a more precise figure to average out.
???k - Dayne Beams
???k - Flynn Appleby
???k - Isaac Quaynor
???k - Jack Crisp
???k - Jack Madgen
???k - Jaidyn Stephenson - would be on a small contract. TTG said hes on 150k to 450k. Need a more precise figure to average out
???k - James Aish
$450k - Jamie Elliott
???k - Jeremy Howe
???k - John Noble
$800k - Jordan De Goey - turned down 5m/5yrs from North. Deal reportedly around 800k
???k - Jordan Roughead
???k - Josh Daicos
???k - Josh Thomas
???k - Levi Greenwood
???k - Lynden Dunn
???k - Mark Keane
$450k - Mason Cox - reportedly 400k to 500k.
???k - Matthew Scharenberg
???k - Max Lynch
???k - Nathan Murphy
???k - Rupert Wills
???k - Sam Murray
$1mil - Scott Pendlebury
???k - Steele Sidebottom
???k - Taylor Adams
???k - Tim Broomhead
???k - Tom Langdon
???k - Tom Phillips
???k - Travis Varcoe
???k - Tyler Brown
???k - Will Hoskin-Elliott
???k - William Kelly

 

[sr36]

Going by that, we're well under the required 95%.

 

[jsdsgn]

Going by that, we're well under the required 95%.

lol. Do you know any figures we can add in to get a better gauge?

 

[Markfs]

AFL 2019: Footy’s six million dollar men for 2018 season revealed, with more to join top pay bracket this year

The six million-dollar men: Footy’s top-paid stars revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Pendles 1 million

 

[sr36]

lol. Do you know any figures we can add in to get a better gauge?

NO. Even the numbers you have are guesstimates anyway.

 

[barrackers]

First year, second year and rookie draftee minimum wages are detailed on the CBA (page 66 onwards)

CBA

Find out more about The Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and what this means for players.

www.aflplayers.com.au

How rookie list payments affect the cap (page 62 onwards)

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL%20Rules%20effective%209%20May%202019.pdf

 

[Obese Arachnid]

inb4 locked

 

[jsdsgn]

inb4 locked

why would it get locked? ive seen heaps of people suggesting we make a thread like this

 

[HeathySure]

Thats not how contracts work. Most are not linear. Some are front ended and some are back ended. In my line of work i have seen many contracts, one that stood out was an interstate player who's contract was $1 million 1st year, $1.3 mill 2nd year and 300k for the 3rd year. He has never ever been mentioned as one of the highest paid players in any articles i have read and it would surprise pretty much everyone who it was.
anyway the point of this post is that this exercise is futile.

 

[CFC2010]

Kappa

 

[legendstatus]

Adding guesstimates still won’t answer the real question, are we overs or unders.


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[sr36]

Josh Thomas $850,00

Surprised me, but I think I read it in a tweat somewhere.

 

[Mooresome]

Josh Thomas $850,00

Surprised me, but I think I read it in a tweat somewhere.

$850 bucks sounds right to me that's all he is worth .

 

[jsdsgn]

Thats not how contracts work. Most are not linear. Some are front ended and some are back ended. In my line of work i have seen many contracts, one that stood out was an interstate player who's contract was $1 million 1st year, $1.3 mill 2nd year and 300k for the 3rd year. He has never ever been mentioned as one of the highest paid players in any articles i have read and it would surprise pretty much everyone who it was.
anyway the point of this post is that this exercise is futile.

Yeah i understand that but this post is investigating whos getting what money next year alone, and i understand that front end back end etc makes it impossible to do but im not investigating the average of a players contract as much as i am investigating their 2020 earnings
i know we will never know the exact numbers but we arent going to be miles off i dont think

 

[Aishole]

This is the most pointless thread of all time. A bunch of guess work that will get no one closer to understanding where our cap ACTUALLY stands.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

why would it get locked? ive seen heaps of people suggesting we make a thread like this

Won't get locked because this board doesn't do that.

No one here has any idea on what players are on.

It's an absolute exercise in futility.

 

[Adz]

Cox is overpaid by 200k.

 

[Chameleon75]

Choose your own adventure

 

[partypie]

You're gonna trigger a whole bunch of people here - I'd just back off slowly with your hands in the air and not make eye contact if I were you...

 

[barrackers]

Ultimately every AFL club has to pay at least 95% of the cap in any year and any contract needs to be signed off the AFL to ensure a club remains under the cap. The below tweet provides a great summary - further to it Wills, Varcoe and Noble have reportedly either signed or have contracts in front of them. Anyone signed for 2020 (and beyond fits under the cap).

With Wells and Goldsack retired and Murray delisted for 2020 that leaves just Crocker, Lynch, Broomhead, Madgen (who can remain on the rookie list for another year) and possibly Dunn. Nothing too bank breaking there.

For 2021 Pendlebury should be on a reduced contract, likewise Mayne if he goes around again. No one other than Grundy, De Goey and Moore will command massive pay increases. Plus the longer we can extend that trio for the lower the immediate impact of their pay rises needs to be. Geelong, Richmond and Sydney have only ever lost mid range or young players to accommodate various recruits, so I can't see why we'd do anything different.

 

[Kappa]

Kappa

Perfect thread for you, you can rant and rave about how we actually have tonnes of cap room in 2019... Very very strange we aren't making a play for a big fish this year with all our free space!

 

[adammania9]

What a waste of time. None of us have any access to any information regarding player salaries and bonuses. Pointless exercise, and I don't know why people spend so much time wondering about it.

 

[Thatsmyname]

Worth it for that graph above alone

 

[ZEV]

I think the problem lies in that you have to pay 95% of the cap and we have DeGoey, Moore and Grundy coming out of contract in an era where ******* Brad Crouch thinks he is worth a million a year.....

 

[unplugged]

I would've guessed Pendles was on 750k max, and soon to go back to about 500k. Sidebottom probability the same.