Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[HarryFlashman]

Whatever could be scrounged up for Wines should be offered up for Viney instead.
I’m happy to burn future picks, if we can land Papley & Viney (& Eddie) we don’t need the draft for a few seasons- we have the kids stock piled already.

 

[HBF]

Apparently Wines is not the mystery player.

Is this privvy mods business??

 

[mochacinolatte]

nah it was brett, he even said it on his fb page!!!

We should come with a uniamious emoji when he ppst a rumour from bigfooty.

 

[ferrisb]

Random ferrisb musing of the day.

When entering a negotiation, don't focus on what you want out of it. Focus on what you opponent needs.

 

[HBF]

Reminds me when we were kids and went out to the airport to see planes take off. Would it look creepy if a mid-30 year old did that these days?

Nah.

 

[Aphrodite]

I don't understand why we need Adelaide to pay for some of Eddie Bett's salary in exchange for a higher draft pick from us. Surely, we have plenty of space under the cap to pay Betts $400K for one season. We were gonna give Congilio at least a mill a year.

We should be paying Eddie's full salary so we keep the higher draft pick. Adelaide should be getting our Pick 85.

SOS needs to bite the bullet and bring in J. Martin by offering our future 2nd round pick and also pick 43 this year.

I don't think Sydney will trade Papley. As such, SOS needs to exchange with Fremantle our Pick 9 and our future 1st round pick for Brad Hill and Fremantle's Future 2nd Round Pick.

Ins: Betts, J. Martin, B. Hill

Say what!

 

[HBF]

Yeehaw!

Eddie for a future pick in the 60's, and Adelaide foot a chunk of the bill

Thats damn good business by SOS

 

[ferrisb]

I was worried the Crows might not foot much of the bill for Eddie's 2020 season.

Then I realised the Crows should have plenty of cap space given they'll only have ~16 players left on their list next year...

 

[CJMB]

Not terribly excited about what Betts offers the on field portion given he’s in the shadows of his very good career, but welcome back. Hope 2020 is a turn back the clock year.

 

[Funk]

A source is telling me Eddie will be parachuting into Princes Park in a Navy blue suit ala Captain Carlton for his Grand return

Hovercraft warming up as we speak......

 

[mochacinolatte]

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finals campaign here we go

 

[JPZ SKOLIEZ]

With all this talk the only trades that will go through is Martin, Betts and maybe butler or Wines? Am I reading this correctly? Papley surely stays at the swans bearing the lewis taylor trade. Who else could be a surprise?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Wonder if part of Eddie’s negotiations was that Daisy had to be squeezed out....

 

[ferrisb]

Mark Evans is a good operator

Not as good as Operator 42

One for the Kevin Bloody Wilson fans out there.




Crap, I just outed myself as a massive bogan.....

 

[Blue Razor]

I don't understand why we need Adelaide to pay for some of Eddie Bett's salary in exchange for a higher draft pick from us. Surely, we have plenty of space under the cap to pay Betts $400K for one season. We were gonna give Congilio at least a mill a year.

We should be paying Eddie's full salary so we keep the higher draft pick. Adelaide should be getting our Pick 85.

SOS needs to bite the bullet and bring in J. Martin by offering our future 2nd round pick and also pick 43 this year.

I don't think Sydney will trade Papley. As such, SOS needs to exchange with Fremantle our Pick 9 and our future 1st round pick for Brad Hill and Fremantle's Future 2nd Round Pick.

Ins: Betts, J. Martin, B. Hill

I believe it has to with the cap min and max. Paying 95% of cap for 3 yrs allows us to pay 105% of cap for 3 yrs. Correct me if I am wrong though.

We don't want to pay Betts that extra 200k if we can save it for next year for a big contract and take advantage of the extra cap.

 

[CJMB]

I don't understand why we need Adelaide to pay for some of Eddie Bett's salary in exchange for a higher draft pick from us. Surely, we have plenty of space under the cap to pay Betts $400K for one season. We were gonna give Congilio at least a mill a year.

We should be paying Eddie's full salary so we keep the higher draft pick. Adelaide should be getting our Pick 85.

SOS needs to bite the bullet and bring in J. Martin by offering our future 2nd round pick and also pick 43 this year.

I don't think Sydney will trade Papley. As such, SOS needs to exchange with Fremantle our Pick 9 and our future 1st round pick for Brad Hill and Fremantle's Future 2nd Round Pick.

Ins: Betts, J. Martin, B. Hill

A future 4th will likely be a mid 60s pick in a heavily compromised draft. I have no issue with that.

Not sure we want to pay Hill $4.5M over the next 5 years.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Not as good as Operator 42

One for the Kevin Bloody Wilson fans out there.




Crap, I just outed myself as a massive bogan.....

She’s busy make it fast.....

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Sam The Doc]

Wonder if part of Eddie’s negotiations was that Daisy had to be squeezed out....

Daisy is very very unlucky. Any word on him getting picked up by another club?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

My favourite tweet in a while

#EveryoneBlamesDodo

 

[jimsta10]

finals campaign here we go

Shhhhh.






Top 4

 

[TerryWallet]

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Elite from TRP.....

Always knew Bootsma was good.

 

[Siegfried]

Random ferrisb musing of the day.

When entering a negotiation, don't focus on what you want out of it. Focus on what you opponent needs.

Wise words Ferris. It's the essence of Principled Negotiation, which came out of the work at Harvard University (the seminal book is called Getting to Yes). Identify all of the interests of all of the parties (could be money, draft picks, how it looks to the members, protection against injury, leadership, keeping sponsors happy and so on), and then brainstorm options that meet as many of those interests as possible, for all parties.

(And yes, being the nerd that I am, I emailed the Club and recommended it to SOS and the recruiting department on the off chance they hadn't already read it.)

 

[jooce8891]

'maybe'

 

[Blue__Balls]

I don't understand why we need Adelaide to pay for some of Eddie Bett's salary in exchange for a higher draft pick from us. Surely, we have plenty of space under the cap to pay Betts $400K for one season. We were gonna give Congilio at least a mill a year.

We should be paying Eddie's full salary so we keep the higher draft pick. Adelaide should be getting our Pick 85.

SOS needs to bite the bullet and bring in J. Martin by offering our future 2nd round pick and also pick 43 this year.

I don't think Sydney will trade Papley. As such, SOS needs to exchange with Fremantle our Pick 9 and our future 1st round pick for Brad Hill and Fremantle's Future 2nd Round Pick.

Ins: Betts, J. Martin, B. Hill

I don't think it's realistic to expect someone like Brad Hill is going to agree to a trade with a club he hasn't spoken with prior to the final three days of the trade period. The costs and picks might line up neatly, but when he's emotionally invested at St Kilda it's hard to imagine he'd suddenly decide to join the Blues on short notice.

I reckon a future fourth in a compromised draft is a pretty cheap price to pay for Eddie regardless of the salary side of things. We also need to ensure we retain enough picks this year to meet the minimum draft requirements.

Reckon you're spot on as far as Martin's ideal value though. I don't think it's a matter of SOS "biting the bullet", as it's probably a price we're fully prepared to pay. It's, arguably, a fair price for the player in question. GC are the one's pushing for a first rounder, but if we hold firm they'll likely relent (sneak the news through behind the King re-signing).

Papley will get done, reckon there are two or three possible ways for it to play out, and it's just a matter of waiting for all the relevant clubs to decide what they're willing to commit and accept back.