Club Focus Collingwood 2020 - Henry, Macrae, McInnes, Poulter, McMahon, McCreery

[Lore]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order (updated weekly) see the thread here.

 

[PieLebo87]

Depends if he retires now or after October 31

What’s the difference? I’m assuming before Oct 31st means it won’t fall in the ‘20 cap?

 

[JLC]

I don’t think we have to go over the top to “woo” players to the club. He either wanted to come or he didn’t. We are not the North, Gold Coast Suns etc.

 

[Scotland]

I think you missed 2008
Pick 11 Sidebottom
Pick 29 Beams
Both would be around top 5 performed, picked that year.

That's just a good draft haul. I don't remember any trade activity that led to it.

 

[Orange Agent]

Does Beams’ salary fall under the 2020 cap if he retires due to mental heath issues?

Depends on the player. He would have to do a Tom Boyd and give it all up, be hard to fit multiple years of salary under 2019 TPP.

 

[Orange Agent]

Ned Guy wants a first round pick. How is he gonna get it?

 

[TradeDraft]

Ned Guy wants a first round pick. How is he gonna get it?

Trade Future 1st for a 1st this year

 

[zhoung]

That's just a good draft haul. I don't remember any trade activity that led to it.

Or 2014 Lumumba for Varcoe

Beams for Crisp, Degoey and Greenwood picks

Then Moore at 9 and Maynard at 30.

That’s both

 

[Bay Pie]

That's just a good draft haul. I don't remember any trade activity that led to it.

Jeremy Howe for Paul Seedsman.

And you should remember Wellingham for pick 18.......Brodie Grundy. All clubs have good and bad recruitment decisions both trading and drafting. It's not an exact science.

 

[evo]

Is it my imagination, or are the Pies toying with a mini 'reset'?


- It come out they entertained the idea of trading Treloar
- Cox is on the trade table.
- They're playing hardball with Grundy
- Elliot was touch and go to be re-signed
- they currently don't have any early picks

 

[NonPhixion]

going to be a quiet period for us. Should really go hard for King next year. perfect fit for us

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

King or Cameron

 

[Tbone McGraw]

Is it my imagination, or are the Pies toying with a mini 'reset'?


- It come out they entertained the idea of trading Treloar
- Cox is on the trade table.
- They're playing hardball with Grundy
- Elliot was touch and go to be re-signed
- they currently don't have any early picks

It is your imagination.

 

[TradeDraft]

Guess the Darcy Cameron trade will happen but here are a Few Possible we could do Monday - Wednesday

• Trade in Josh Jenkins. Probably for Scharanberg
• Trade Thomas and ? to Suns for Pick 15
• Trade Cutler in for ?
• Trade Scharaneberg for a Pick

 

[Xavier Menzies]

Is it my imagination, or are the Pies toying with a mini 'reset'?


- It come out they entertained the idea of trading Treloar
- Cox is on the trade table.
- They're playing hardball with Grundy
- Elliot was touch and go to be re-signed
- they currently don't have any early picks

Balls deep in cap pressure

 

[Tbone McGraw]

Balls deep in cap pressure

Firstly, thanks for visiting.

Secondly, we have no cap pressure. It is a media beat up to keep a revelant club in the news.

You may not understand that.

 

[scratchy09]

At this point, I'd be looking to off-load players who have some value of some sorts. As AFL Salaries aren't released, we have no clue what our cap situation is like. Players I'd consider off-loading for the right price are (assuming we need to off-load players) are:

Would preferably seek future picks and this is what I'd want for them, not what we'd necessarily get:
Matt Scharenberg (30-40)
James Aish (30-40)
Will Hoskin-Elliot (25-35)
Josh Thomas (30-40)
Mason Cox (35-45)
Brayden Sier (20-30)[I know he just re-signed but he seems a surplus. Wills is also better in every way bar age]
Sam Murray (not sure what he is worth and we would've delisted him so probably a pick 50+.

If the rumours are true, I'd happily bring in Jenkins if he will play for 200k only which is apparely around 40-50% of what Cox makes for similar output. I'd try and land Cameron with a pick that is 60+. I'd also consider re-drafting Dale Thomas as a rookie as he will cost virtually nothing and he is clearly AFL standard as he had a good year and is a very versatile option.

 

[ZEV]

I'd also consider re-drafting Dale Thomas as a rookie as he will cost virtually nothing and he is clearly AFL standard as he had a good year and is a very versatile option.

Would get him just to play on Eddie Betts twice next year...

 

[PieLebo87]

Firstly, thanks for visiting.

Secondly, we have no cap pressure. It is a media beat up to keep a revelant club in the news.

You may not understand that.

Will be hilarious seeing people’s reactions when the Pies go after a huge FA next year.

This has been their strategy all along while people think it’s salary cap relief.

 

[Andyy]

Will be hilarious seeing people’s reactions when the Pies go after a huge FA next year.

This has been their strategy all along while people think it’s salary cap relief.

Any idea who?

At this point, I'd be looking to off-load players who have some value of some sorts. As AFL Salaries aren't released, we have no clue what our cap situation is like. Players I'd consider off-loading for the right price are (assuming we need to off-load players) are:

Would preferably seek future picks and this is what I'd want for them, not what we'd necessarily get:
Matt Scharenberg (30-40)
James Aish (30-40)
Will Hoskin-Elliot (25-35)
Josh Thomas (30-40)
Mason Cox (35-45)
Brayden Sier (20-30)[I know he just re-signed but he seems a surplus. Wills is also better in every way bar age]
Sam Murray (not sure what he is worth and we would've delisted him so probably a pick 50+.

If the rumours are true, I'd happily bring in Jenkins if he will play for 200k only which is apparely around 40-50% of what Cox makes for similar output. I'd try and land Cameron with a pick that is 60+. I'd also consider re-drafting Dale Thomas as a rookie as he will cost virtually nothing and he is clearly AFL standard as he had a good year and is a very versatile option.

Personally I only really see value in Sier (as a Tigers supporter) but plenty of clubs might have a go at some of those. Wouldn't offer our first pick (19) for Sier though and our next one at 38 might be a bit weak for you unless you want a steak knife role player.

Agree re: Jenkins. Would come cheap AF and probably perform better than Cox but I think you have to be careful you don't end up with a Quintin Lynch MK2 type of player. If the window is still open (mindful that Pendles + Sidebottom are ageing etc) then a guy like Jenkins could help your forward structure without setting the world alight. De Goey needs to get himself fit and as much as I like Mihocek I don't think he handles being 1st key forward very well at the pointy end of the year.

 

[NonPhixion]

Any idea who?





Personally I only really see value in Sier (as a Tigers supporter) but plenty of clubs might have a go at some of those. Wouldn't offer our first pick (19) for Sier though and our next one at 38 might be a bit weak for you unless you want a steak knife role player.

Agree re: Jenkins. Would come cheap AF and probably perform better than Cox but I think you have to be careful you don't end up with a Quintin Lynch MK2 type of player. If the window is still open (mindful that Pendles + Sidebottom are ageing etc) then a guy like Jenkins could help your forward structure without setting the world alight. De Goey needs to get himself fit and as much as I like Mihocek I don't think he handles being 1st key forward very well at the pointy end of the year.

Jenkins Can be the Leigh Brown MK2
Yeah you’re right about Mihocek for sure.

 

[PieLebo87]

Any idea who?

No clue. Don’t even know who’s a FA next year.

 

[scratchy09]

Personally I only really see value in Sier (as a Tigers supporter) but plenty of clubs might have a go at some of those. Wouldn't offer our first pick (19) for Sier though and our next one at 38 might be a bit weak for you unless you want a steak knife role player.

Agree re: Jenkins. Would come cheap AF and probably perform better than Cox but I think you have to be careful you don't end up with a Quintin Lynch MK2 type of player. If the window is still open (mindful that Pendles + Sidebottom are ageing etc) then a guy like Jenkins could help your forward structure without setting the world alight. De Goey needs to get himself fit and as much as I like Mihocek I don't think he handles being 1st key forward very well at the pointy end of the year.

After doing a bit of research, I'd say we should not target Jenkins and instead target Riccardi in the VFL with our 2nd round pick as I believe he has a lot of potential and would rather get games into him over a Jenkins.

 

[Professor Knowall]

Despite all this talk about salary cap pressure, so far this trade period the Pies have added a player, lost none.

 

[THE_GUN]

After doing a bit of research, I'd say we should not target Jenkins and instead target Riccardi in the VFL with our 2nd round pick as I believe he has a lot of potential and would rather get games into him over a Jenkins.

Strange you say this as Collingwood are really into Riccardi and he is a very good chance to end up at the Pies

 

[scratchy09]

Strange you say this as Collingwood are really into Riccardi and he is a very good chance to end up at the Pies

Well I hope he does. I hadn't heard his name at the time of posting and from the looks of it, seems the best Key Position Forward in this draft class, even as a mature ager.