Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[BigBreakfast]

Everyone knows what Dodo is like. SOS made * pay two first round picks last year for Shiel. Surely we need to smarter.

Maybe. I just don't see who else was realistically available to us that moves the needle in a meaningful way. Butler maybe? Wines was never realistic. Bonar is more of the same but, I would have accepted him.

Big lesson? Avoid any dealings connected in any away to *. I am going to trust our off field team to improve us internally.

 

[Gavstar]

Bennell is best player available by miles. In Russell and Eddie we trust

He doesn’t start running until January, even they can’t work miracles next year

 

[ESKIE]

Betts - McKay - McGovern
Cunners - Curnow - Martin

Still more than handy

Sam Grey would be the one to come in short term imo


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Yes

 

[SammaGilberto]

Let's pick up Dyl Buckley, bring back Discussions with Dylan!

 

[klompy]

Have a feeling we're going to go into another phase of, "Gee, we dodged a bullet there"

Let's simply be honest and say that this trade period did not pan out the way we desired it to.
Missing on Papley will cost us and no mix of Polson, Gibbons or Deluca will make up for it. We fluffed this one.....no statues forthcoming.

Agree. People focus on the fact that Papley and Martin were difficult to achieve. No doubt about that, and that's not why SOS failed. He failed because he didn't improve the list. He didn't do his job. If Papley and Martin weren't working out, he should have gone elsewhere. Poor strategy and negotiation. Unless of course he couldn't find any other player available that would improve the list. I'd find this hard to believe.

 

[ajb72]

On face value it looks like a disaster but there are some positives.

If we got all the targets the off season hype wpuldve been unbearable. We didnt lose anyone we cpuldnt afford to lose and got a replacement for the loss. Our area of need we did get some cover so lets hope betts body stays sound.

Also the trade period is still open for pick swaps so its still possible there might be changes to our draft position.

It could be worse. We could be essendon who got a 2nd string ruckman and a winger and nothing to help their area of need.

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[jooce8891]

Seriously, someone give Cam another contract extension

have to tell ya mate, no clue why but i deadset lolled at that hard

 

[HBF]

Yep it's true, GCS guy said it in his presser. I totally agree with our stance

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Amazing misplaced arrogance from the Suns.

 

[choo]

There is no front loading contracts any more
Value is based on total contract
You can’t set $1 million first year then 100k for 3 years
Afl just say match 1.3
Psd won’t be an option
Afl must have told GC harden up when they got the handouts
Nd for me sry in or nothing
I don’t want to overpay but I don’t like wooing a player then not getting it done

Sydney look like ditks

 

[jackn]

If GC wanted 9 and next year 2nd for martin and 15 they should fold.
Trade 9 and next year’s second to Melbourne for pick 3 and take him in nd
GC get nothing

So 9 and 2020 2nd is too much for Martin and 15, but you want to use 9 and 2020 2nd for Martin without 15 coming back? Interesting strategy.

 

[HARKER]

There's a fair difference between it being disappointing, and us fluffing it.

The look on SOS's face told me all I needed to know.

 

[Chewy on your bootsma]

Ok, so the trade period lasted for 8 days. Deals should really only take 1 hour to finalise. We made three of them (including Phillips), as well as a couple of insignificant pick swaps, which really shouldn’t have taken much time at all. Yeah I get that we were spent time discussing about Papley and Martin, as well as the other trades, but seriously WHAT ON EARTH was SOS doing for half of the trade period?
Rejecting Ollie Wines offers?!

 

[tattooedJESUS]

I dare say all ITK posters (excluding barass) will be away for a while. Unfortunately some of their info will now be taken with a grain of salt

 

[Bobmonkey]

Imagine being the guy still posting this .gif in 2019.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Man, I hope whoever we draft at #9 ends up being an absolute gun. It would make this so much funnier.

We are just going to have to find someone to replace that 1.46 goals per game, those 3 tackles per game and those 14 disposals per game.

The draft gurus will surely have come alive in our draft thread now?

Find the next Gryan Meiers.

 

[Gavstar]

If draft quality outside top 5 is evens, I would hope we are looking at a either Worrell for our midfield stocks or Weightman who could be our future small forward winner.

to think if we had have kept our pick 4 the bloke we need would be right there in Flanders and he’s ready to plaY from the get go

so now the SOS gamble is whether Stocker and whoever we take at 9 is > Flanders (who I think we would take if we had 4)

Melbourne wanted pick 8 to get in front of us for Weightman

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Twomey reporting Gold Coast were happy to do pick 15 + Martin for 9. SOS turned it down.

SOS committed pick 9 for Papley.
So if we’d paid that and the Daniher deal went through, how do we get Papley??

Then the sooks would whinge about that.

Might as well forfeit 2020 because we didn’t get a couple of trades done yeah?

Ffs!


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[FRUMPY]

Playing devil’s advocate, judging by SOS comments, I don’t think puck 9 in its own right was ever on the table for papley.

SOS said 9 was definitely involved. But never said it was the offer

It was obviously agreed upon as Sydney offered pick 9 in a trade for daniher. Whatever the deal was it involved pick 9 and I'd say some pick swaps

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[RoyalParade]

There we have it, Essendon screwed up our chances to get Papley. Swans have every right to keep him but you would think that he will be fairly pi**ed with them. Can see him being very gettable next season.

Martin will get to Carlton via the draft which would be awesome and that makes this a win. Martin for nothing i think would be a big one.

Not the result we wanted but it was in the hands of other clubs which means it's never a certainty.

If we don't get Martin in the draft then this is a big failure, not necessarily our fault but a failure all the same.

Hugely disappointing trade period. All hinges on
At least

Reports have said GC will redraft Martin so not show how he'll slip to us.

I don't see us getting Martin in the draft now. GC/AFL won't let it happen to make a point

 

[jackn]

There is no front loading contracts any more
Value is based on total contract
You can’t set $1 million first year then 100k for 3 years
Afl just say match 1.3
Psd won’t be an option
Afl must have told GC harden up when they got the handouts
Nd for me sry in or nothing
I don’t want to overpay but I don’t like wooing a player then not getting it done

Sydney look like ditks

A total contract of 1 million for 1 year.

Then add years for less once he's here. As it is now it is absolutely an option, it's just whether afl makes up more rules on the go to help gcs.

 

[BlueJet]

Have no doubt Cripps will be disappointed with the trade period outcome .

He may well be, ultimately though I'd back him to simply get on with it rather than chucking a tantrum.
The onus is on the Setterfields, Dows, SPS' etc to really step up and alleviate the pressure on him.
Ps. Not sure why, I'm getting quoted re: Cripps, I was providing some context regarding this trade period being a supposed disaster.

 

[HBF]

WTF? A difference of approx 350 point or A mid 3rd rounder? If we had of given them pick 47 for him, most would have been happy with that?

We didn't to downgrade our first round pick and a future second round pick for him. Way too much for an uncontracted player

 

[teknodeejay]

Betts - McKay - McGovern
Cunners - Curnow - Martin

we don’t have Martin and Cunningham is hardly inspiring. I expect we see Gibbons, Silvagni, Cunningham and Kennedy rotate through those roles.

 

[Blue Viking]

So if the Suns end up higher than us on the ladder at the end of next year do we get a priority pick for the 2020 draft or to the Suns retain their additional picks even though they finished in front of us and we dont get any? F U AFL.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Right. Disappeared after that to go cool off. Read some storries to the little one and put her to bed.

25 pages behind now.

After cooling off I still think this trade period is a disaster and poorly managed.

The plan was to hit the draft for a few years then trade for needs. We were pretty open this year was trading for needs.

Easy to say now "Oh Papley was always going to be hard if Daniher didn't move"... well where's our contingancy plan? Butler was there for the taking.

Yes Martin we still might pick up in the pre season draft. That could end up being a win... but it's definitely not gone to plan.

Wines comes to us asking for a trade? Surely if we knew how hard and unlikey Papley was going to he we try get that over the line.


In the end we added Betts (great romance but fills no need long term) and sideways traded a backup ruckman.

There's no sugar coating it. Shocker of a trade period. I'm sure the club are spewing internally!