Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[WeninRome]

Dear Craig (Cameron)

I have just seen your trade proposal and it is with great regret that I write to inform you of a mixup which has occurred.

Based on the proposed trade, it appears that you believe that you've got Dustin Martin on your list - whereas it's actually Jack Martin.

Apologies
RedFury

Dangerfield went for Dean Gore, picks No.9 and No.28....

 

[FRUMPY]

I refuse to spend 2 hours reading through 40 pages of melts. Already feeling flat enough. Would appreciate a summary of has been explained somewhere in there.

Strong word was we had multiple pre sorted deals. so not sure if Suns stitched us up or if the ITK word wasn't right and we were have over the line. In which case why didn't we look at alternatives or go back to Ollie.

Papley never available if swans don't get daniher

Carlton weren't going to overpay to get martin. GC asked for too much.

Wines never available

Not going to trade for the sake of trading

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[WeninRome]

They did answer it. If they had other targets, they would have planned for them. We didn't hear about other targets from the club did we?

I don't really think you should be hearing about a target that's contracted unless you have a deal locked in. Just makes you look rather silly.

 

[bluemahogany]

GC only have to match 2.4 over 4
Yearly amount doesn’t matter anymore

You misunderstand, it will be a 1 year deal worth close to a million dollars. Then sometime next year we will give Martin a new contract.

See above

 

[FRUMPY]

Adds nothing to the discussion.

Martin takes 1.2/1 year, why on earth would he extend on a hand-shake agreement for 250k over 3 years when he can probably get at least double that at the Dogs.

It's how the system works. Sure he could turn his back BUT HE WONT, managers won't **** over clubs like that

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[manang magoos]

Charlie, Samo, Walsh, Weitering, McKay, Fish, Gov, Newman, Setters, Willo, Marchy, Plow, Gibbons ... i.e we pay him to build a team, to manage our salary cap, to retain our players, to use our draft currency to extract maximum value.

We also have the best recruit coming back in Doc so calm the farm people we will be fine

 

[T2B_]

Suns were having a laugh with their pick 9 for Martin idea. That much is for sure. Arrogant tossers, fueled by the AFL's assistance package. Can't imagine Martin is all that pleased though.

 

[WeninRome]

Can someone explain to me why paying $1m to Martin next year would prevent Melbourne from picking him up? Do we know they can't/wouldn't be thinking the same way as us and then renegotiate his deal?

 

[FRUMPY]

Can someone explain to me why paying $1m to Martin next year would prevent Melbourne from picking him up? Do we know they can't/wouldn't be thinking the same way as us and then renegotiate his deal?

Melbourne might but also might not want him. Risk to take

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[chelseacarlton]

What it all essentially boils down to is that the AFL 2 week trade period is a fizzer, it won’t happen this way again.
Gillon is a failure.

Carlton FC will improve next year, that’s all I care about.
To the folks that put their all into this thread, I applaud, respect and luvs ya’s, I was entertained, more so than the shite that Gilllon tried to manufacture, we ain’t American sport, let’s not try to be like them.

P.S **** you dodo, **** you sydney, **** you gold cosst and **** you afl.

PPS I love you CARLTON, you did the right things tonight!❤

 

[ajs071]

I think that's what he was getting at

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I read that differently. Swans tabled Pick 9 to Bombers, so clearly they were prepared to accept our offer.

 

[Drama]

I feel bad for Cripps, to go from potentially playing with coniglio to having to hope the club can get some maturity through the draft would be a pretty disheartening thing. If they keep failing him like this, he has every right to go and find a club that’ll help him prolong his prime instead of being a battering ram year after year.

 

[SammaGilberto]

2hours post melting began, I think the boards getting better at this whole melting thing... Much better than previous melt worthy occasions.. kinda.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Problem of course now is, if Papley requests a trade again next year, no chance he will nominate us...

Rubbish!
He knows our hands were tied as he’s contracted and that us not acquiring him was not our doing.



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[BigBreakfast]

Agree. People focus on the fact that Papley and Martin were difficult to achieve. No doubt about that, and that's not why SOS failed. He failed because he didn't improve the list. He didn't do his job. If Papley and Martin weren't working out, he should have gone elsewhere. Poor strategy and negotiation. Unless of course he couldn't find any other player available that would improve the list. I'd find this hard to believe.

We have a very competent small forward, improved the back up ruck status and kept our draft hand. Not ideal but not insignificant either.

 

[PREETY_FLY]

Suns were having a laugh with their pick 9 for Martin idea. That much is for sure. Arrogant tossers, fueled by the AFL's assistance package. Can't imagine Martin is all that pleased though.

TBH pick 9 for Martin and Pick 15 was a pretty decent offer.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I don't really think you should be hearing about a target that's contracted unless you have a deal locked in. Just makes you look rather silly.

Saints and Freo hadn't come to terms for Hill before we found out about it. First comes the interest, then comes the player managers getting the word out there, then comes the deal.

 

[mrkyuss]

Should be trading pick 9 into next years and have double the currency to go again. Pretend this year didn’t happen. Free agent list next year is awesome

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

TBH pick 9 for Martin and Pick 15 was a pretty decent offer.

You wanted our 2020 second rounder as well.

 

[Skull Face]

GC only have to match 2.4 over 4
Yearly amount doesn’t matter anymore

Surely we make it 1.8mil over 2 and then extend it mid year for 2 more at 300k.

GC, Melbourne aren't going to pay him 900k a year without any agreement in place for those extra cheap years.

 

[Kramer1]

Wow, shocking trade period from Carlton.

We have no chance of doing a Brisbane next year. We should have at least offered Pick 9 for Wines. Look what Neale has done for Brisbane. Cripps must be spewing right now that we are just bringing in another kid with Pick 9.

Just to clarify, you think Wines, the young, long term contracted captain of the PAFC was available for 9?

 

[HBF]

So why didnt we get Martin's manager to do what Keath's manager did and come out in the media and say he wouldn't be coming back to the club?

That can still happen I suppose.

 

[T2B_]

What it all essentially boils down to is that the AFL 2 week trade period is a fizzer, it won’t happen this way again.
Gillon is a failure.

Carlton FC will improve next year, that’s all I care about.
To the folks that put their all into this thread, I applaud, respect and luvs ya’s, I was entertained, more so than the shite that Gilllon tried to manufacture, we ain’t American sport, let’s not try to be like them.

P.S fu** you dodo, fu** you sydney, fu** you gold cosst and fu** you afl.

PPS I love you CARLTON, you did the right things tonight!❤

Love it CC.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Sell it whichever way you choose but for two players to ask to nominate Carlton and not get there, doesn't make for a good look.
If you think it does, tell me how.

It's not about melts but reality. We did not pull off the trades we told prospective players we would do so.

You don't think Papley knew every step of the way it was a long shot if the Daniher deal didn't happen? If we knew it, then Papley absolutely knew this could happen. There is no way he would have been left in the dark. Martin is in exactly the same boat. You don't think he knew the fall back option was the PSD if the Suns wouldn't deal?

 

[Stamos]

Can someone explain to me why paying $1m to Martin next year would prevent Melbourne from picking him up? Do we know they can't/wouldn't be thinking the same way as us and then renegotiate his deal?

They don't have $1M salary cap space