Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach

[treeman]

Goodwin went to Unley High

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I'm sorry but Goodwin didn't go to Unley High I'm not sure where that info is from but I went to Unley High and they used every opportunity to spruik former successful alumni and never mentioned his name... I finished in 2003.

Weird I just looked it up and it appears he did go there, which is strange because I remember Rachel Sporn being mentioned numerous times but not Goodwin. Would have thought he would have been invited to an assembly too considering his achievements. Maybe was too successful to get back.

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[Large 1]

Does anyone know when we will be announcing the rest of the appointments. many on here were saying the process was taking a long time because the club was going to announce the newbies to the coaching team so I a little surprised that nothing has happened.

All the assistant coaches will stay the same. Nicks said so on 5AA just after his appointment.

Or are you talking about the head of football and the leadership roles?

 

[SaltPeter]

Goodwin was a PAC boy.

No, I don't think so. Bernie was a PAC boy though.

 

[lincsPJ]

I know that 95% of people disagree with me, but I just dont see how this guy is the best coach available. He has been under Hinkley at the power for 8 of the last 9 years. Port has been absolutely s**t house for most of that time and Hinkley is one of my least favourite coaches. I think Hinkley is so bad that I say a little prayer every day that he never gets the sack


So how the fu** is Nicks the best option. I dont know. Feels like we hired him because he was from SA. Maybe he was the only one of the candidates that knew he had to blow smoke up Roos arse to get the job. Will be happy to be proven wrong, but count me in as one of the 5% who is 100% against this appointment.

How did he go in his interviews? Assuming you were there to come to these strong conclusions? Which candidate would you have selected?

Not saying that hes going to bring us 3 flags, but you’ve got to have at least 1 iota of faith in the appointment that he communicates well has some half decent ideas on coaching.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Im happy to give him a go, if he can get the guys playing for each other again like we had in 2017 then he has done a great job. We were a broken club on the last half of last year.

I get the port connection not being great but Bolton was under Clarkson for years and he was about as s**t as they come. Hopefully he has Hinkley good traits and picked up some good traits from Cameron to steady this playing group

This whole thing about Nicks getting the players back and bonding the club together is all great and the media love it but it is a skill all coaches should have and most do. We have just been unfortunate to have had a really really poor group of individuals at our club bring it to its knees.

We need to be hearing what tactical observations he has and how he sees the game heading as well as how our current list will play to its strengths.

 

[Shaz2012]

How did he go in his interviews? Assuming you were there to come to these strong conclusions? Which candidate would you have selected?

Not saying that hes going to bring us 3 flags, but you’ve got to have at least 1 iota of faith in the appointment that he communicates well has some half decent ideas on coaching.

My point was that it doesn’t matter how his interview was. What is our metric for our next coach. Is it that he has paid his dues through a successful club that has been setting the bar? If so, then Port Adelaide isn’t the club where I want my coach doing his apprenticeship. What exactly is it from their club over the last 9 years that your excited to see come to ours?

I love that he played under that bloods culture that was there around 2005. There is plenty from that Sydney side that I would love to see at my club. But that is a bloody long time ago. What exactly from his time at Port are you excited to see implemented at the Crows. I’m just saying his credentials don’t excite me. A guy in a failing system for nearly a decade at a club in a two team “interstate” side? Sounds a lot like Campo and Clarke.

I’m not calling him a failure before he even starts. Proof of the pudding will obviously be in the eating. I’m just saying I don’t share the optimism. The appointment just seems as vanilla as we could possibly get. 8 of the last 9 years at Port? FMD.

 

[GreyCrow]

This whole thing about Nicks getting the players back and bonding the club together is all great and the media love it but it is a skill all coaches should have and most do. We have just been unfortunate to have had a really really poor group of individuals at our club bring it to its knees.

We need to be hearing what tactical observations he has and how he sees the game heading as well as how our current list will play to its strengths.

That was indeed our issue

 

[40porpoise]

I don’t buy the reasoning that you have to work under a successful coach.

If Alistair Clarkson is a genius coach then he could have a bunch of Ben Harts around him and it wouldn’t really matter.

But if Clarkson gets results because of the good assistants around him, then he isn’t really a genius coach, in which case it’d do you no good to be learning under him.

 

[lincsPJ]

My point was that it doesn’t matter how his interview was. What is our metric for our next coach. Is it that he has paid his dues through a successful club that has been setting the bar?

Our metric has been loud and clear, and mentioned many times. We want a coach that is an excellent communicator and can unite the playing group.

it’s the hawthorn, Richmond, Collingwood model. Clarko, dimma and bucks all focus on leadership and team unison.

The difference being we may not have the strategic quality of assistants of those above clubs to complete that desired model, yet.

 

[GreyCrow]

I don’t buy the reasoning that you have to work under a successful coach.

I do- there is a reason they are successful. They either know their limitations and hire to support them or they have pillars of success

They each in their own way have certain standards they wont cross.

Your further comments dont really work in any situation. He would not have 5 Ben Harts because his standards would not allow that. He would move people on , he would move people around.

It is a little bit of chicken and egg but Clarkson is the chicken

 

[Shaz2012]

Our metric has been loud and clear, and mentioned many times. We want a coach that is an excellent communicator and can unite the playing group.

it’s the hawthorn, Richmond, Collingwood model. Clarko, dimma and bucks all focus on leadership and team unison.

The difference being we may not have the strategic quality of assistants of those above clubs to complete that desired model, yet.

An excellent communicator? Really. That’s what makes an elite coach. It’s not the Richmond, etc model just because we say it is. That’s just cheap talk. What has Nicks done to suggest he is the guy that can actually implement those models. He hasn’t been part of any of those systems.

As for uniting the playing group. That’s also not something that I am on board with. This playing group that downed tools can go and get ****ed. If they aren’t prepare to unite behind whoever the * we make head coach then they can join JJ out the door. Any player worth keeping doesn’t need uniting because they had no right to act like the way they have been in the first place. It’s not like they are doing us a favour. The club is paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars. FMD. This tail wagging the dog s**t will never lead to a culture of success.

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

I thought Matty Clarke wouldn’t be a good Snr Coach..... but here we are.

Matty won’t be using Ken or Cameron’s game plan, I am sure he has developed his own plan and style that he wants to implement from watching successful teams. He has been around the AFL for a long time, I am sure he is capable of independent thought.

My 2 cents

 

[BrissyCrow]

All the assistant coaches will stay the same. Nicks said so on 5AA just after his appointment.

Or are you talking about the head of football and the leadership roles?

Well you need to replace Campo. Also I was referring to Head of Footy. But I understood that Nicks could bring 3 coaches with him. Anyway I would just like to see the final make up of the Footy department which I am including coaches eing a part of that

 

[moogerfooger]

All the assistant coaches will stay the same. Nicks said so on 5AA just after his appointment.

He did the say the existing assistants would be there. What we don't know is whether any of their roles will change.

 

[spexau]

I thought Matty Clarke wouldn’t be a good Snr Coach..... but here we are.

Matty won’t be using Ken or Cameron’s game plan, I am sure he has developed his own plan and style that he wants to implement from watching successful teams. He has been around the AFL for a long time, I am sure he is capable of independent thought.

My 2 cents

Also a good instance of when players love and play for their coach. He coached well, don't get me wrong, but if the belief and trust isn't there then it's pointless.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Goodwin was a PAC boy.

Nope, Unley High.

 

[Anzacpaul]

I think the midfield generally will get a bump if there is buy in to Nicks’ cultural change. Putting others first, having your team mates back. Simple stuff so lacking in our midfield.

Who blocks, tackles and creates space and pressure for their team mates? Who covers others defensively.

Nothing, no one, zilch. They accumulate stats for themselves and that’s about it.

It’s not a unit, not a team within a team.

CEY was the shining light in this regard. It's one of the things the Lions board is excited about, a big body mid to protect Neale etc.

I know the game is different now, and it's all about getting to space etc, but it was so refreshing to see CEY and O'Brien use their body to protect the ball carrier, rather than running to space to receive the handball.

 

[Thetrader15]

Goodwin was a PAC boy.

I'm sorry but Goodwin didn't go to Unley High I'm not sure where that info is from but I went to Unley High and they used every opportunity to spruik former successful alumni and never mentioned his name... I finished in 2003.

Weird I just looked it up and it appears he did go there, which is strange because I remember Rachel Sporn being mentioned numerous times but not Goodwin. Would have thought he would have been invited to an assembly too considering his achievements. Maybe was too successful to get back.

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Maybe Goody didn't make it to highschool..

 

[Thetrader15]

I don’t buy the reasoning that you have to work under a successful coach.

If Alistair Clarkson is a genius coach then he could have a bunch of Ben Harts around him and it wouldn’t really matter.

But if Clarkson gets results because of the good assistants around him, then he isn’t really a genius coach, in which case it’d do you no good to be learning under him.

???

Is Clarko was a genius coach, he wouldn't appoint poor assistants

If he gets good results because he appoints genius assistants, that makes his a very good operator - there is more to creating a great team than just having a person at the top. In fact, the best teams are those where there is a great alignment, empowerment and ownership of the team. The role of the coach / manager is to employ assistants who can get 95% of the job done while the head coach guides, mentors and helps out with the challenging problems.

Top down, bottom up management.

It sounds like this is Nick's approach - hence why he is so good at building relationships

 

[jackster83]

Nope, Unley High.

Only in Adelaide does it matter what school you went to. Christ we're insular.

 

[Thetrader15]

Also a good instance of when players love and play for their coach. He coached well, don't get me wrong, but if the belief and trust isn't there then it's pointless.

I think the girls played for themselves, and loved playing, didn't take the opportunity as an entitlement like a lot of the blokes do, most of who have only ever had one job - playing football.

The girls are also playing for a higher purpose than just themselves

 

[FR0GGY]

Only in Adelaide does it matter what school you went to. Christ we're insular.

I don’t think it matters other than someone said he went somewhere else and was corrected.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Only in Adelaide does it matter what school you went to. Christ we're insular.

I try to hide the fact I went to Unley. HATED it there. They are a psuedo private school that had to have Prefects as well as the Student reps. When I was there they didn't care about you unless you are very academically gifted or brilliant at sport. If you fell outside there, then you were there to prop up those students.

For those doubting about Goodwin going to Unley High, his older brother was a Prefect, and I have the yearbooks still in my possession to prove Simon went there.

 

[jackster83]

I don’t think it matters other than someone said he went somewhere else and was corrected.

I meant in general.

 

[NikkiNoo]

I think the girls played for themselves, and loved playing, didn't take the opportunity as an entitlement like a lot of the blokes do, most of who have only ever had one job - playing football.

The girls are also playing for a higher purpose than just themselves

Those doubting Clarke's ability to be a head coach should take the opportunity to go down and watch training. I was very impressed with what he was doing.

Yes, the AFLW players are just so incredibly happy to just have the opportunity but you need a coach to channel that into a way to play as a team, not for themselves as you stated above. That's the reason we were such a force last season. The structures and discipline our team played with were so much higher than any other team. They were playing close to an AFL men's structure (better than our men could at times!). That takes coaching. Very good coaching.