Would gavin excell have played the 1989 grand final rematch?

Does gavin excell play in the 89 grand final replay?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes but its exell (in honor of the heartfelt plea of vdubs)

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
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We came very close to a drawn grand final in 89 with the end result only 6 points and geelong scoring at will in the last qtr. if the draw happened then surely there would of been pandemonium.

Both teams had enormous injury tolls.

Before blight sensationally dropped star full forward Modra from the 97 finals series he had kind of already pulled the move before. Dropping gavin excell for the semi final despite kicking nearly 4 goals a game throughout the season including 10 against hawthorn.

Despite ablett kicking 10 in the gf (im assuming he would of got the last to give us the draw) would excell have been brought back with all the injuries? Im assuming bourke, stoneham, bruns, schulze miss through injury and porbably or two others and hocking probably suspended.

So does excell make it back in the team? If not who else? If he does where do we play ablett?

So many fascinating scenarios.
 

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We came very close to a drawn grand final in 89 with the end result only 6 points and geelong scoring at will in the last qtr. if the draw happened then surely there would of been pandemonium.

Both teams had enormous injury tolls.

Before blight sensationally dropped star full forward Modra from the 97 finals series he had kind of already pulled the move before. Dropping gavin excell for the semi final despite kicking nearly 4 goals a game throughout the season including 10 against hawthorn.

Despite ablett kicking 10 in the gf (im assuming he would of got the last to give us the draw) would excell have been brought back with all the injuries? Im assuming bourke, stoneham, bruns, schulze miss through injury and porbably or two others and hocking probably suspended.

So does excell make it back in the team? If not who else? If he does where do we play ablett?

So many fascinating scenarios.
Good thread man. And yes he would of played.
We would of smashed them the next week. Our ressies team made the GF (and the u19's)
Hawks woulda had no Dippa, Dermie, Platten plus more.
 

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Good thread man. And yes he would of played.
We would of smashed them the next week. Our ressies team made the GF (and the u19's)
Hawks woulda had no Dippa, Dermie, Platten plus more.
Seeing gavin excell, Michael kol, Darren troy, Dwayne russell and Morgan come into the side and win premierships that year would of been some awesome icing.

Ok maybe not russell but the other guys definately. I cant remember why Morgan wasnt in the team come finals time.
 

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Dwayne Russell did his knee early in the season.
Excell and Morgan were dropped from the QF for Scott and Cameron.

Kol’s last game for us was R6 vs Hawthorn. Got smashed by Tony Hall and Morrissey.

The latter three were part of our capitulation against the Roys when they went the whack in the second half.
 
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Did Yeates get suspended. If not, would he have today..Fair bump, below the head, all shoulder and body, how far off the ball... looking at replays maybe 10 to 15m



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Dwayne Russell did his knee early in the season.
Excell and Morgan were dropped from the QF for Scott and Cameron.

Kol’s last game for us was R6 vs Hawthorn. Got smashed by Tony Hall and Morrissey.

The latter three were part of our capitulation against the Royals when they went the whack in the second half.
David Cameron was awful. He wasnt even the best Cameron at the club. Should of kept Morgan in the team.
 
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Who would have missed from our side?

Bourke (inj) Cameron (suspended) who else?
Was Cameron the only one suspended? I surely thought hocking would of gone for his whack on dipper or platten (cant ever who) that the whole crowd saw. Ablett probably lucky to avoid suspension given he charged straight into diper and broke his ribs.
 

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Did Yeates get suspended. If not, would he have today..Fair bump, below the head, all shoulder and body, how far off the ball... looking at replays maybe 10 to 15m



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If they showed the original vision that was only showed once he would of got suspended for ages. Even for the 80's.
Kneed him a good 2 or 3 times.
Just for the bump, nah he would of been fine
 

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Was Cameron the only one suspended? I surely thought hocking would of gone for his whack on dipper or platten (cant ever who) that the whole crowd saw. Ablett probably lucky to avoid suspension given he charged straight into diper and broke his ribs.
Cameron got 3 weeks and Dipper 5 they were the only suspensions
 

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Was Cameron the only one suspended? I surely thought hocking would of gone for his whack on dipper or platten (cant ever who) that the whole crowd saw. Ablett probably lucky to avoid suspension given he charged straight into diper and broke his ribs.
Back then, if the ump didn't see it, it didn't happen.
 

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Gavin Excell was a strange player - in that he had ability - in that high scoring game at Princes Park earlier that year (89) against the Hawks - a game i went to - where Geel led by about 9 goals at half time ( should have been 11 goals Robert Scott ( frustrated the shiit out of me he did ) missed a sitter just before h/time - and Haw rushed it down the other end - and Dipper kicked a goal right on the bell to bring the margin back to 9 goals

Excell that day played Full forward that day ( Ablett - it was his 100th game i can remember that - played on a half forward flank ) and played very well and kicked a bag full of goals at full forward - his o/head marking was great

But Excell just somehow lost the ability - ended up going to Fitzroy and didnt do much their either - maybe he lost application - wasnt fit enough got no idea - but he went from a player who could play - to someone who couldnt
 
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If they showed the original vision that was only showed once he would of got suspended for ages. Even for the 80's.
Kneed him a good 2 or 3 times.
Just for the bump, nah he would of been fine
Saw that when it happened, never shown again on the day, never seen it on any video clip since, never even gets mentioned.
 
What did dipper do to get 5?
Budda's jaw got in the road of Dippers elbow on the centre wing
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Cameron's elbow is at 01:37
Dipper's elbow is at 01:44
 
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Saw that when it happened, never shown again on the day, never seen it on any video clip since, never even gets mentioned.
I actually only first saw it a few years ago. A Hawks fan showed it to me. Have never been able to find it on the internet though.
I had no idea! I always thought it was the bump that injured him.
 
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Was Cameron the only one suspended? I surely thought hocking would of gone for his whack on dipper or platten (cant ever who) that the whole crowd saw. Ablett probably lucky to avoid suspension given he charged straight into diper and broke his ribs.

Garry Hocking collected Platten. From memory it was near the end of the first quarter. What has been lost in the last thirty years it that it looked completely innocuous and Hocking did absolutely nothing wrong. The ball just bounced towards Platten and sat up as he went for it. Hocking turned his body (with elbow and arm well and truly tucked in) and took the ball. Tons of feigned outrage over that but it was just one of those things.

Ablett on Dipper is the same. People are so desperate to be offended by it now, but all you need to do is watch the reaction of the Hawthorn defenders. None of them remonstrate with Ablett in the slightest - they knew that was part of the game then.

Looking at that footage again David Cameron's is far worse than anything Hocking or Ablett did. Easily.
 
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...Despite ablett kicking 10 in the gf (im assuming he would of got the last to give us the draw) would excell have been brought back with all the injuries? Im assuming bourke, stoneham, bruns, schulze miss through injury and porbably or two others and hocking probably suspended...

David Cameron, 2 goals inside the last minute!:p
 
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Seeing gavin excell, Michael kol, Darren troy, Dwayne russell and Morgan come into the side and win premierships that year would of been some awesome icing.

Ok maybe not russell but the other guys definately. I cant remember why Morgan wasnt in the team come finals time.

All those guys were sitting out in 89? Far out, thats some nice depth. The old days where 18 yo guys just wouldnt even get a look in, unless they were complete prodigies, because you had 60-70 hardened men at the club.
 
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