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[arupist]

Can you go into a bit more depth on this?


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It's secret, man.

 

[hawkguru]

It's secret, man.

 

[KermitJagger]

Can you go into a bit more depth on this?


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Most clubs in the AFL go with the league sponsored Irish talent identification and development system under Marty Clarke, that's why you hear a lot about multiple clubs being linked to an Irish prospect the majority of the time. You don't hear that with Hawthorn because they do their own scouting.

 

[MrPremiership]

Thursday 2pm is the deadline to nominate F/S or NGA prospects for the upcoming draft.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Most clubs in the AFL go with the league sponsored Irish talent identification and development system under Marty Clarke, that's why you hear a lot about multiple clubs being linked to an Irish prospect the majority of the time. You don't hear that with Hawthorn because they do their own scouting.

Wasn't aware of that - thanks for sharing. Given the number of Irish players in the league these days that are really talented and having a large impact; and the fact we don't have one yet (Glass and Nash are no certs for mine), are we doing the right thing?

 

[KermitJagger]

Wasn't aware of that - thanks for sharing. Given the number of Irish players in the league these days that are really talented and having a large impact; and the fact we don't have one yet (Glass and Nash are no certs for mine), are we doing the right thing?

We have two Irish players who have tasted AFL football and contributed strongly at times.

You could compare that to the wider league who have had a considerable amount of Irish imports on lists that have never played a game. On average, I would say that our talent ID systems are performing better.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Wasn't aware of that - thanks for sharing. Given the number of Irish players in the league these days that are really talented and having a large impact; and the fact we don't have one yet (Glass and Nash are no certs for mine), are we doing the right thing?

You'd say it hasn't worked at this point, and odds are against both based on their outings so far. But hopefully it clicks for them this season. Either way we will know by the end of the season.

 

[play2win]

You'd say it hasn't worked at this point, and odds are against both based on their outings so far. But hopefully it clicks for them this season. Either way we will know by the end of the season.

Still very excited by Nash, not sure what you are not seeing

 

[KermitJagger]

You'd say it hasn't worked at this point, and odds are against both based on their outings so far. But hopefully it clicks for them this season. Either way we will know by the end of the season.

Still very excited by Nash, not sure what you are not seeing

I'm the same, I think Nash could be one of the better Irish exports. Statistically speaking, along with * we're the best side at translating Irish imports to game time. We've targeted 3, of which 2 have played AFL games with one never really having a chance as he decided to remain in Ireland. The AFL average is 36% and we're running at a 67% clip.

Team	Count of VFL/AFL debut	Count of Player	Percentage
Adelaide		2​	0.00%​
Brisbane	3​	7​	42.86%​
Carlton	4​	8​	50.00%​
Collingwood	2​	6​	33.33%​
Essendon	2​	3​	66.67%​
Fremantle		1​	0.00%​
Geelong	1​	4​	25.00%​
Greater Western Sydney		1​	0.00%​
Hawthorn	2​	3​	66.67%​
Melbourne	4​	10​	40.00%​
North Melbourne		3​	0.00%​
Port Adelaide		1​	0.00%​
Richmond	1​	2​	50.00%​
St Kilda	3​	8​	37.50%​
Sydney	2​	6​	33.33%​
West Coast Eagles		1​	0.00%​
Western Bulldogs		1​	0.00%​
Grand Total	24​	67​	35.82%​

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I was assuming that this independent scouting has been going for a few years already?

If Nash becomes a good player that contributes to a winning side then I'd call it a success, but until then it hasn't been one (as yet). Hopefully Nash and Glass really kick on this coming season.

 

[MrPremiership]

Wasn't Nash's younger brother down at Waverley late in the season?

 

[TylerDurden]

Are we nominating Pepper?

 

[KermitJagger]

Wasn't Nash's younger brother down at Waverley late in the season?

There is word that we have another Irish prospect in the traps, whether or not that's Conor's younger brother or not I'm not sure.

He seems a similar size so potentially he is.

 

[MrPremiership]

Are we nominating Pepper?

Will know by 2pm tomorrow.

Seems a no-brainer to do it, just in case. Guess the counter argument is you'd only nominate if you're committed to take him, even as a rookie.

 

[The German Hunter]

Are we nominating Pepper?

We will be, and Finn

 

[Spook]

Secret Irishmen are always a possibility as we run separate Irish talent identification systems to the other clubs.

Aren’t all clubs talent identification seperate to the other clubs?

 

[KermitJagger]

Aren’t all clubs talent identification seperate to the other clubs?

Not when it comes to Irish talent.

 

[houdinihuddo]

I'd be happy if we also nominated Todd Garner. In the NAB League finals he showed enough talent to be worth a rookie spot and also played well in a disciplined tagging role.

 

[GinniAndTonic]

Did we nominate anyone?

 

[Big Hotdog]

Did we nominate anyone?

No news of it yet.

 

[Rich the babe Evans]

Cal Twomey said in his mock draft, "They have nominated Harrison Pepper as a possible Next Generation Academy pick, and could get him automatically as a category B rookie if he goes undrafted". So it looks like Pepper will be a Cat B rookie.

 

[Slick]

Cal Twomey said in his mock draft, "They have nominated Harrison Pepper as a possible Next Generation Academy pick, and could get him automatically as a category B rookie if he goes undrafted". So it looks like Pepper will be a Cat B rookie.

This is good news. Looking forward to seeing what Pepper can do at VFL level next season. His back end of the year was really good for Gippsland Power.

 

[MrPremiership]

interesting that we didnt nominate Garner

 

[streetspirit]

Probably lack the room for him, with CJ, hopefully Pepper and maybe an Irishman taking up all three spots. Perhaps Garner will train with BHH over the summer for a SPP addition to the rookie list?

 

[eldorado]

Probably lack the room for him, with CJ,

I would think they might put CJ on the Cat A rookie list rather than Cat B, enabling him to play at any time, rather than having to wait for an LTI