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The Selwood Decade... we may never see anything like it
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Cdog71
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They changed the interpretation of the rule.
I don’t see it as cheating, I see it like how KB handballed the ball infront if himself when tackled.
It’s not insidious or some sinister act everybody was able to do it.
He plays within the rules and he’s a ball player.
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Watch the videos of Selwood getting these frees and notice that he almost invariably gets his arms free and is poised to or does fire off a handball - particularly the early ones. As much as he learnt to milk frees, he also was getting his arms free.
this. Has anyone stopped to actually realise that his first priority is to break the tackle and release the ball, and then if it fails he gives himself a chance of winning the free?
next thing rugby league players looking for a quick play the ball to help their attack will be in the gun for bad sportsmanship because they also know it can force an offside penalty
Yep agreed he does do that. What gets me is the constant look of indignation on his face when the tackle slips up and he thinks he should get a free. Guess he’s learnt from old rotating clown face Scotty in the box
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r u serious? Full forwards get front spot because it is easier to mark in front (and easier for his team mate to hit him as a target) than mark from behind.
If you think its about making the full back risking a free or a fwd generating a free then thats some stunningly short sighted logic.
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Yes. Yes you are.
Are these are the types you are referring to Art? Yes, they're certainly a special breed these Geesook sooks. But calling him a m-r-n is a bit harsh. There was once even a time when such a term was frowned upon around here.
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Interesting that his strength in raising the arm is greater than the tacklers strength in holding the tackle.
Theoretically, you should be able to pin that arm if you aren't half hearted.
of course it’s to mark the ball but it forces the fullback to also risk a free to prevent it happening.
how is attempting to break a tackle and move the ball on, with the possibility that you may earn a free in attempting it, any different?
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So his best just wasn't good enough?
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"Gives himself a chance to win the free".
Thats a new angle......
Nope. Selwood's action is instantaneous, a reflex action. As soon as he is touched (before the tackler has been laid) he drops his knees and raises his arm. Suggests he has been doing it for a long, long time. Probably since his junior years. Either that or he has had training in jujitsu at some stage.
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Calling him a tosser is fine Complaining that the AFL didn't adjust quickly enough and paid him too many frees is fine.
Calling him a cheat is bloody ridiculous.
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It's simple, he either ducks or lifts his arm to draw high contact unlike any other player before.
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I understand both our clubs have a massive rivalry, but this comment is just ridiculous.....You must then think Tom Mitchell’s best is nowhere near good enough either considering he’s never played in a winning final for Hawthorn?....A prime example of what was mentioned re Selwood is the 2014 QF against your very team, Selwood was far and above our best player ( even kicked 3 goals ), but as a whole he had nowhere near enough help to actually allow us to beat you....That sort of match has been a constant since 2011....As a fan my admiration has actually gone up for him over these years, because unlike others who get success early in a great team, like Gunston & Bruest, he still continually plays at the same level, not drop when the team has dropped.
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Its not so much about the holding of the tackle, as much as it is about the strength of being able to keep the arm in a specific position once a counter movement occurs.
An outstretched arm has less strength than a tucked arm, from memory of basic biomechanics.
It’s why when you lift a heavy weight you keep your elbows bent and the weight close to your core.
Try to carry a heavy weight with out-stretched arms, elbows straight, it’s tough.
Have to be honest. When Selwood started out his career and was drawing high frees, I did not notice it much as he was smashing into packs consistently and figured the free kicks were always there.
However, after a few years, it began to get on my nerves because Geelong played beautiful footy and the only negatives were the ducking Selwood and Christensen would do.
I always felt when Selwood begun to age and decline, his ducking would come back to haunt him tenfold. He will now cop it constantly and it will get so bad that when he does announce his retirement, the free kicks numbers will be mentioned in the same breath as his illustrious career.
However, after a few years, it began to get on my nerves because Geelong played beautiful footy and the only negatives were the ducking Selwood and Christensen would do.
I always felt when Selwood begun to age and decline, his ducking would come back to haunt him tenfold. He will now cop it constantly and it will get so bad that when he does announce his retirement, the free kicks numbers will be mentioned in the same breath as his illustrious career.
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The Hawthorn meatheads obsession with Joel Selwood will never end. 
Millsie69
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The Hawthorn meatheads obsession with Joel Selwood will never end.
And the Geelong nuffs will never stop denying that Selwood draws high contact free kicks by raising his arm in a tackle, even in the wake of statistical evidence to prove it.
It's actually staggering that you all seem to believe that every opposition player in the league somehow forgets how to tackle when it comes to Selwood, but can lay a tackle on everyone else that doesn't raise their arm.
The bloke may be a great onfield leader and player, but to deny that a free kick differential of over 200 to the next player, as simply 'opposition players need to learn to tackle properly' is pure lunacy.
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Because they are trying to mark the ball instead of generating a free kick. What planet are you coming from?
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.......could have tried harder when it mattered to drag his team over the line to beat us
Oh he's dropped alright..... and flopped. this thread is testament to it
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