List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part V

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Exactly why would there be a delay in announcing?
Maybe they are going to wait until after the draft so they know what we get in.
If we end up with 3 mids then that may change what we are after as a DFA. May go hunting a young ruck or fwd instead.
Not many other clubs would be looking at this stage i would have thought.
 

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He was probably the best player in the comp for 2 years in 09/10 you peanut.

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Better then Lenny? Better then Roo? Better then Chapman? Scarlett? Bartel? Steve Johnson? Joel Selwood? Ablett? Ling even...

Just looking at the 09 Grand Final teams without looking at other clubs....

Massively overrated. Take off the rose colored glasses.

Amazing we were the better team that day looking at our lists. We should have won the 09 GF if not for our poor accuracy in front of goal in the first half.
 
Dude, go back and watch the 09 GF.

For all the talk about the Hawkins poster, Kosi getting a free kick in the goal square before the ball is bounced is just as bad.

There is a heap of play that goes Geelong's way & we struggle to hold on at times.

Yes, we should have made the most of our chances, but there were a couple of momentum shifts that the Cats failed to capitalise on as well.

On Goddard: He was elite. He played back, mid & forward as well as anyone in the comp. Milne only player I would say was clearly better over both 09 and 2010.
 
For all of Billings talent he is more comparable to what Heath Black offered us
Than even being close to what Goddard produced for us from 2008-2010!

Not to say he won't though in the future, he is still young!
And if it came down to a fight between Billings and Black
Billings would wipe the floor with the angry and moody but ultimately soft Black!
Damn , id kill to have another like him , the way he kicked the ball was sublime
 
We should move heaven and earth to get Bennell. He could be the difference between us making the 8 or finishing in the top 4 IMHFO.
 
My little bloke just did Little Aths at Dendy Park Brighton. The Saints doing time trials around Dendy Park Brighton. Didn’t recognise the first three placegetters. Hunter came 4th.

Gresh was miles behind everyone and was with fitness staff who were yelling at him to push hard.

He looked unfit and not like a midfielder...

He was puffing like a smoker running for the train.

Rowan Marshall also off the pace.


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My little bloke just did Little Aths at Dendy Park Brighton. The Saints doing time trials around Dendy Park Brighton. Didn’t recognise the first three placegetters. Hunter came 4th.

Gresh was miles behind everyone and was with fitness staff who were yelling at him to push hard.

He looked unfit and not like a midfielder...

He was puffing like a smoker running for the train.

Rowan Marshall also off the pace.


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Great news on Clark. He’s going to be dangerous with a decent tank.
Gresh not so much...
 
My little bloke just did Little Aths at Dendy Park Brighton. The Saints doing time trials around Dendy Park Brighton. Didn’t recognise the first three placegetters. Hunter came 4th.

Gresh was miles behind everyone and was with fitness staff who were yelling at him to push hard.

He looked unfit and not like a midfielder...

He was puffing like a smoker running for the train.

Rowan Marshall also off the pace.


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If Gresh is taking it easy and not working hard enough as has been reported in here I hope he gets ridden like never before this preseason. The kid has all the talent in the world but if he lacks application he will never be what he could be.

Maybe starting the year in the 2s might be a wake up call.

Having said that, I thought he looked good in the pics the other day so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time
 
I sort of agree he was not quite though. If he was overrated it was because he looked like his best was elite but his consistent output was just off that. After 2010 you expected him to be a superstar and he never really took that next step. He'll go down as an A grade excellent talent but not a champion. Over all that's disappointing because he had moments that suggested he could have been a great. To me he sits behind Rooey, Lenny, Milne, Dal as champions of that era and more alongside Joey and Sam Fisher as great players.
BUT BJ did X factor stuff...inspirational moments that would lift the intensity....sometimes in a defininig a period of years in terms of contributions the indefinable anti-data is where their weight becomes worthy of gold!!!
 
Better then Lenny? Better then Roo? Better then Chapman? Scarlett? Bartel? Steve Johnson? Joel Selwood? Ablett? Ling even...

Just looking at the 09 Grand Final teams without looking at other clubs....

Massively overrated. Take off the rose colored glasses.

Amazing we were the better team that day looking at our lists. We should have won the 09 GF if not for our poor accuracy in front of goal in the first half.
Lenny? Absolutely. Roo? Possibly. Chapman, Scarlett, Johnson, Ling? Hahaha, not even worth mentioning. Bartel? Comfortably. Ablett? Better GF performances than Ablett in all 3.
 

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BJ was elite for maybe two years. Majority of his career he was A grade though. The 2010 finals series elevated him & Mike Sheehan predicted he’d be the best player in the comp in 2011. His best was only bettered by Roo & Lenny & lacked their consistency over a long period. I kind of think he was unfulfilled talent. But still top 5 for his era at the Saints.
 
For all of Billings talent he is more comparable to what Heath Black offered us
Than even being close to what Goddard produced for us from 2008-2010!

Not to say he won't though in the future, he is still young!
And if it came down to a fight between Billings and Black
Billings would wipe the floor with the angry and moody but ultimately soft Black!
Ps , you do know he had a lot of mental heath issues , he may have done some dumb things but he was not soft
 
My god, you've got to laugh. After having a bit of a giggle at the videos going on over the last few pages it got me thinking...if you showed Copernicus, Newton, and Einstein, the wonders of our present world what with the information at our fingertips with the internet...and they realised that basically 90% of it was dedicated to cat videos and pr0n...what would they think!? Answer: The boys are right, cats are cute, pr0n is great, and that Roma bloke is chubby 😄
 
My little bloke just did Little Aths at Dendy Park Brighton. The Saints doing time trials around Dendy Park Brighton. Didn’t recognise the first three placegetters. Hunter came 4th.

Gresh was miles behind everyone and was with fitness staff who were yelling at him to push hard.

He looked unfit and not like a midfielder...

He was puffing like a smoker running for the train.

Rowan Marshall also off the pace.


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Jeebus....

Ratts, if this is true, ride that slackass Gresham like a freakin Pony!
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My god, you've got to laugh. After having a bit of a giggle at the videos going on over the last few pages it got me thinking...if you showed Copernicus, Newton, and Einstein, the wonders of our present world what with the information at our fingertips with the internet...and they realised that basically 90% of it was dedicated to cat videos and pr0n...what would they think!? Answer: The boys are right, cats are cute, pr0n is great, and that Roma bloke is chubby 😄

It's a bizarre world, we have phones with high resolution video and editing capabilities on most computers and can't make a decent film so just rehash old comics. We can take a photo on our phone that would make some of the cameras of the 20th century look primitive and can't take a good photo. You can make music on your home computer and we can't make a decent song. Option overload I think. Can't decide what to do first so go for a wank before jumping back on youtube to watch cat videos.
 
BJ was elite for maybe two years. Majority of his career he was A grade though. The 2010 finals series elevated him & Mike Sheehan predicted he’d be the best player in the comp in 2011. His best was only bettered by Roo & Lenny & lacked their consistency over a long period. I kind of think he was unfulfilled talent. But still top 5 for his era at the Saints.

Top 7 imo which shows how good we had it back then. Roo and Lenny; followed by Dal, BJ, Joey, Chips, Milne - hard to split those 5. We're a long way from having one player as good as any of those seven at their peaks.
 
Top 7 imo which shows how good we had it back then. Roo and Lenny; followed by Dal, BJ, Joey, Chips, Milne - hard to split those 5. We're a long way from having one player as good as any of those seven at their peaks.

Yea agree that group of 5 is difficult to split. I’d still probably go BJ ahead of the others. He was just so reliable & versatile. Rarely dropped a mark or missed a target & you could slot him just about anywhere. Looking back at the 09-10 grand finals I think it effected him the most. At 25-26 & entering his prime he looked like being the best player in the league but regressed from that point. Still a damn fine player though.
 
If Gresham is still lacking fitness at this point in his career he can be a specialist forward. Give Hunter the opportunity to own a midfield spot.
Or as Ratts said at 1st day of training that spots are up for grabs.
 
Yea agree that group of 5 is difficult to split. I’d still probably go BJ ahead of the others. He was just so reliable & versatile. Rarely dropped a mark or missed a target & you could slot him just about anywhere. Looking back at the 09-10 grand finals I think it effected him the most. At 25-26 & entering his prime he looked like being the best player in the league but regressed from that point. Still a damn fine player though.

And let’s not forget he took a few years to really come good.
 
You can all relax about Masten now if it hasn’t already been said, he’s signed on with the Perth Demons at WAFL level.
So who can we move onto now? Partington? Brown? Hirst? Keays?
Otherwise this thread is going to get real boring
 

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