Past #22: Todd Goldstein - has advised NMFC he will seek opportunity at Essendon in '24 - 316 NM games/156 goals/'15 SBM/'15 AA/most hitouts in lge history

[Val Keating]

He's a bloody good footballer. Bizarre that anyone would want him to leave.

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Taken for granted

 

[Snake_Baker]

He's a bloody good footballer. Bizarre that anyone would want him to leave.

Taken for granted

He's currently the second best tap ruckman, and arguably the second most influential ruckman in the league.

Grundy gets a tad over-hyped by the possession count.

 

[Val Keating]

He's currently the second best tap ruckman, and arguably the second most influential ruckman in the league.

Grundy gets a tad over-hyped by the possession count.

And he’s definitely the most durable. Just doesn’t miss games.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Just wish he took more contested marks and had more physical presence

 

[Groin guru]

Todd Goldstein Syd Barker Medal History:

2015: Winner (Contract year)
2016: 11th
2017: 15th
2018: 7th
2019: =3rd (Contract year)

The Theory of Goldstein.

 

[DarwinRoo]

So he jumped 8 spots in a non contract year and then only 3 in a contract year.

Hmmm

 

[Snake_Baker]

So he jumped 8 spots in a non contract year and then only 3 in a contract year.

Hmmm

IMO, he was dudded in last years B&F and should have finished higher.

 

[DarwinRoo]

2014 2nd
2016 3rd after Round 10, still 5th after 16 rounds despite carrying a knee injury. 11 Brownlow votes in first 9 games.

 

[DarwinRoo]

3rd in 2013 as well

Must have been another contract year

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Todd Goldstein Syd Barker Medal History:

2015: Winner (Contract year)
2016: 11th
2017: 15th
2018: 7th
2019: =3rd (Contract year)

The Theory of Goldstein.

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He started in 2008.

Selective use of stats? That would never pass the technical rigour standards you tend to bang on about in relation to your research. Certainly wouldn't get through peer review.

 

[Groin guru]

So he jumped 8 spots in a non contract year and then only 3 in a contract year.

Hmmm

That's the:

"I've got more leverage if I put in more than a season's worth of effort in. Plus it's enough for them to only get a backup ruck instead of thinking about a replacement"

BRB putting $500 on Goldy to finish top 3 in the syd for 2022.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Keep on one year deals keep him hungry instead of complacent with these 3 year deals ah well too late now

 

[Val Keating]

Keep on one year deals keep him hungry instead of complacent with these 3 year deals ah well too late now

If North only gave him one year he’d be out the door. Those days are over

 

[The Nostradamus]

If North only gave him one year he’d be out the door. Those days are over

Then you let him go

 

[RobZombie]

He's currently the second best tap ruckman, and arguably the second most influential ruckman in the league.

Grundy gets a tad over-hyped by the possession count.

Grundy's a wrecking ball. He's bloody good and rightly regarded as the best in the biz.

Gawn is a harder matchup for Goldy but I'd take Grundy ahead of him any day.

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[LuvtheKangas]

** but he only get them in contract years **

 

[The Y Factor]

** but he only get them in contract years **

Bloody big years those two

It’s complete idiocy that narrative but I luv your commitment to debunking it

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Pure hit out stats mean little.

Hitouts leading to clean clearances are where it’s at.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

Hoping to see more of Todd 'Round 22, 2019 VS Port Adelaide' Goldstein. If we want to push for finals, he needs more of those performances.

 

[ferball]

Todd Goldstein Syd Barker Medal History:

2015: Winner (Contract year)
2016: 11th
2017: 15th
2018: 7th
2019: =3rd (Contract year)

The Theory of Goldstein.

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So the theory of Goldstein is that barring injury and serious personal issues he's a top 10 and often top 5 player.

Nice theory.

 

[Groin guru]

So the theory of Goldstein is that barring injury and serious personal issues he's a top 10 and often top 5 player.

Nice theory.

No, that's your excuse based theory.

"serious personal issues" that were more or less self-inflicted. He can do whatever he wants and it's his private stuff but I know I won't give him any sympathy just because he's a North player. I don't excuse people for that and then let the fallout impact their performance and the teams when on 800k a year.

 

[King Corey]

"serious personal issues" that were more or less self-inflicted. He can do whatever he wants and it's his private stuff but I know I won't give him any sympathy just because he's a North player. I don't excuse people for that and then let the fallout impact their performance and the teams when on 800k a year.

There probably is a slightly blurry line between some of the causes and effects in this case.

However that's just humanity and all its inherent flaws.

 

[Groin guru]

There probably is a slightly blurry line between some of the causes and effects in this case.

However that's just humanity and all its inherent flaws.

Of course. We are all humans and if it was Todd the non-footballer = fair enough.

But Todd the extremely well-paid athlete - different story.

If you're paid 800k a year and shoot yourself in the dick in your spare time. Then let that affect (Kimbo might be reading ) your performance for 2 years, I'm still going to say you're a dickhead for shooting yourself in the dick.

Everyone else is patting Goldstein's head saying "there there, it's not your fault you shot yourself in the dick"

 

[Devington]

Of course. We are all humans and if it was Todd the non-footballer = fair enough.

But Todd the extremely well-paid athlete - different story.

If you're paid 800k a year and shoot yourself in the dick in your spare time. Then let that affect (Kimbo might be reading ) your performance for 2 years, I'm still going to say you're a dickhead for shooting yourself in the dick.

Everyone else is patting Goldstein's head saying "there there, it's not your fault you shot yourself in the dick"

Eh. While I kind of agree, you also have to take into account that Brad took the wrong approach by 'backing him in' for FAR too long when it was clear to all in Sunbury that the man's head wasn't anywhere near a football field (and his skills were even further away!)

And I also think that in this case you can have it both ways. Acknowledge that situation was largely his own doing AND still feel sorry for the guy. As KC said, this s**t is human nature.