List Mgmt. Carlton's 2019 Draft Thread

[Ninja Worrier]

Not for 9 but from those highlights Bergman's ceiling looks high, can see why the dogs are linked at 13

 

[Jimmae]

Or is he more of an Aaron Francis/ Darcy Fogarty -Talented in betweener that doesn't have a tank? Though Francis did go through the middle a bit in juniors from memory.

Hurn, while built like a tank is only 187 and capable of playing small.

His overall athletic traits look superior to those names, especially for a midfield role, and the penny has dropped about him losing weight. Will need a lot of work to make the transition, but could just as easily play key defender for a side.

I don't think he's lit up the draft boards like those two did with eye-catching performances, but he is consistently good and arguably consistently better.

I loved Francis as a junior but he was an unconvincing mid.

Fogarty was transitioning into more midfield time in his draft year when he got injured, but looked far more promising than Francis in that respect. Disappointing that neither have doubled down with getting themselves slim.

If Sharp goes top 25 being that outside AND only a 60 percent by foot, and I think not amazing speed- I’ll eat my hat.

Last I checked, 60% DE by foot is still average to above average, and Sharp's endurance and speed mix is very much in the elite category.

He goes on long runs and then tries to deliver the killer ball, and I think his stats reflect that. If he can iron out his inside game and his decision making when the numbers are ahead of him, he's value in the 20-30 range, no doubt.

Not for 9 but from those highlights Bergman's ceiling looks high, can see why the dogs are linked at 13

Why not for 9?

 

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[AT97]

Why not for 9?

highlights certainly look good. Looks smooth. why were his numbers so low considering he’s labeled as a medium mid?

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Hard to know what happens with our picks with live trading but O'Neill looks a likely candidate around our pick in the 40's.

 

[AT97]

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[jezzatigerbrent]

Not for 9 but from those highlights Bergman's ceiling looks high, can see why the dogs are linked at 13

the one-handed marking and the general athleticism as well as speed , makes me think of Anthony Koutafides,

 

[Jimmae]

highlights certainly look good. Looks smooth. why were his numbers so low considering he’s labeled as a medium mid?

Stats read like he played as a forward for Sandy, and then was injured in round 20.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Is it a genuine prospect that we would propose a swap 9<->10 with Freo in return for not bidding on Henry?
If so, why wouldn't we rinse and repeat 10<->11 with Hawks re Finn?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Is it a genuine prospect that we would propose a swap 9<->10 with Freo in return for not bidding on Henry?
If so, why wouldn't we rinse and repeat 10<->11 with Hawks re Finn?

As a guess, because if we did potentially bid on Henry, it may be because we actually want him....and Freo would be aware of that.

Hawks don't tend to 'overpay' on how they rate the player's value - if we came to them and said we're looking at bidding on Finn unless we trade picks 9 and 10, and you give us pick 30 for our 43, they'd likely tell us "ok, bid on him then", calling our bluff to potentially burn a pick on a player we're not after.

Definitely Freo is worth a shot though.....both clubs would win on that trade if we also got pick 22 in exchange for 43. The only risk here is that Freo select the player we were looking to draft at pick 9.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

...on the assumption we'd be happy with Finn at 10 given who else would be gone by then

 

[GT619]

What do u think the club will do come draft name

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I think at our selection our choice will be between (Ash or Stephens) and Kemp.

These will be gone
Rowell Anderson Jackson Young Greene Flanders Robertson Serong plus either (Ash or Stephens)

 

[GT619]

I think at our selection our choice will be between (Ash or Stephens) and Kemp.

These will be gone
Rowell Anderson Jackson Young Greene Flanders Robertson Serong plus either (Ash or Stephens)

why kemp we have similar types to him. I don’t get it

 

[Jimmae]

why kemp we have similar types to him. I don’t get it

We have 6'4 midfielders with elite skills, pace and agility?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

why kemp we have similar types to him. I don’t get it

I'm saying those will be the choices
If we don't want them, we'll look to trade down

 

[murphster]

As a guess, because if we did potentially bid on Henry, it may be because we actually want him....and Freo would be aware of that.

Hawks don't tend to 'overpay' on how they rate the player's value - if we came to them and said we're looking at bidding on Finn unless we trade picks 9 and 10, and you give us pick 30 for our 43, they'd likely tell us "ok, bid on him then", calling our bluff to potentially burn a pick on a player we're not after.

Definitely Freo is worth a shot though.....both clubs would win on that trade if we also got pick 22 in exchange for 43. The only risk here is that Freo select the player we were looking to draft at pick 9.

I think if Robertson is still on the board at our pick at 9 then Freo will be more than ready to give us 10 & 22 for our 9 maybe with 43 but I’d hard ball them and say who are you going to get at 22 that is better than Robertson, because that’s the equation for them, its Robertson and Henry or it’s Henry and whoever they can get at 22, not a hard choice.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Fair chance they'll take him at 7

 

[Gethelred]

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Got us taking Serong at 9, with Kemp and Maginness still on the board but Stephens gone the pick before.

 

[GT619]

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Got us taking Serong at 9, with Kemp and Maginness still on the board but Stephens gone the pick before.

Ash was on the board as well

 

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Got us taking Serong at 9, with Kemp and Maginness still on the board but Stephens gone the pick before.

how do you feel about serong at our selection

 

[thylacine60]

I'll be in a navy, single-breasted zegna but each to their own.........

 

[Gethelred]

how do you feel about serong at our selection

When watching Serong - given my rather inexpert attempts at draft coverage; I don't have the time I used to - I was reminded of Ben Lennon and/or Laverde; a player who is strong and thus capable of breaking tackles at U18's level, but someone whose agility, straight line pace would be exposed at the top level. His skills certainly were not impressive, IMO.

Like I said, I'm not an expert, nor have I seen overmuch of the kid, but I would prefer we spend our pick another way.

 

[Jimmae]

When watching Serong - given my rather inexpert attempts at draft coverage; I don't have the time I used to - I was reminded of Ben Lennon and/or Laverde; a player who is strong and thus capable of breaking tackles at U18's level, but someone whose agility, straight line pace would be exposed at the top level. His skills certainly were not impressive, IMO.

Like I said, I'm not an expert, nor have I seen overmuch of the kid, but I would prefer we spend our pick another way.

Agree. I doubt we'll select him.

 

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Some player comparisons are interesting;

Hayden Young - Nick Haynes (about time)
Caleb Serong - Tim Kelly (really?)
Dylan Stephens - Jared Polec (Fair enough)
Brodie Kemp - Kyle Langford (WTF?)