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Yeah, I think Charlie has been needlessly reckless, if not foolish, from the sound of it.
Can totally understand why the club would be ticked off at him.
Will have to work hard to regain the trust of his teammates and coaching staff.

Concern is that Charlie may be too fond of a drink, warranted or unwarranted.
 
Yeah, I think Charlie has been needlessly reckless, if not foolish, from the sound of it.

Can totally understand why the club would be ticked off at him.

Will have to work hard to regain the trust of his teammates and coaching staff.
I highly doubt he fractured his patella slipping on the stairs. My guess is he was doing something that the club isn’t privy to disclosing. Much like Fasolo’s “slip at a party”.
 
Concern is that Charlie may be too fond of a drink, warranted or unwarranted.

**** if that is true. The club needs to take a hardline stance on this if true, we all know what happened with Fev after we (the club's board), indulged his alcoholism with far too soft an approach.

I am a massive of Charlie, but he needs to be disciplined and councelled if what you have posted is true.

I can forgive his basketball injury, it was silly of him to do it whilst in rehab on his knee, but forgivable, but if this latest setback is anything to do with alcohol, I am inclined not to be so lenient.

Why can't Charlie learn to be the consumate pro like his older brother? 😥😥😥
 
**** if that is true. The club needs to take a hardline stance on this if true, we all know what happened with Fev after we (the club's board), indulged his alcoholism with far too soft an approach.

I am a massive of Charlie, but he needs to be disciplined and councelled if what you have posted is true.

I can forgive his basketball injury, it was silly of him to do it whilst in rehab on his knee, but forgivable, but if this latest setback is anything to do with alcohol, I am inclined not to be so lenient.

Why can't Charlie learn to be the consumate pro like his older brother? 😥😥😥

Just what I heard and the reason CCurnow had to report to Liddle.
I wasn't there and it's worthy of taking it with a grain of salt, but somehow....it just sounded right.

EDIT: And as if Charlie may be the only person that likes to indulge in a drink? He sure is clumsy though (who isn't when tanked) and his names pops up a little too often when some funny stuff is going around.
 

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It certainly has the presentation of O.P from the outside. I'm not sure why it wouldn't just be announced as such if it was though.
It hasn’t been referred to as O.P for years as this is incorrect terminology. It is now well known in the field that the groin pain which persists at the pubic symphysis is an inflammation of the ligament, not the bone. Thus osteitis (inflammation of bone) pubis is technically wrong.

The groin encompasses a number or different muscles/tendons/ligaments and it could be any number of these where pain is persisting with big H. Either way, not a good sign that it’s been such a chronic issue.
 
Why can't Charlie learn to be the consumate pro like his older brother? 😥😥😥
Maybe he will but you do remember why we got him in the draft, right? Not saying it's an excuse and definitely not saying there was alcohol involved as i have no idea. Just don't expect to get a choir boy when you pick someone that slipped (in the draft, not on the tiles) for the reasons charlie did.

Wishing him a speedy recovery and a much better 2020 than 2019.
 
It hasn’t been referred to as O.P for years as this is incorrect terminology. It is now well known in the field that the groin pain which persists at the pubic symphysis is an inflammation of the ligament, not the bone. Thus osteitis (inflammation of bone) pubis is technically wrong.

The groin encompasses a number or different muscles/tendons/ligaments and it could be any number of these where pain is persisting with big H. Either way, not a good sign that it’s been such a chronic issue.

Well no, not really. It's always been referred to as inflammation of the pubic symphisis and surrounding tendinous attachments. The reason we don't hear the term much anymore is because it's largely been stamped out after an epidemic across the football codes in the mid 2000s. Knowledge about prevention with core strength and pelvic balance brought it to a halt. Joe Daniher has recently been labeled with it however. Big H had a history with low back stress fractures which may have altered his pelvic mechanics and contributed to his current issues as speculation. He's in good hands though.
 

Me, in July, and for many months after that when people tried to claim his kicking action was the problem (and that it had always been a problem):
Likely still carrying the groin issue that had him sitting out a couple of weeks after the bye.
This is not new information, and it should settle on the modified program.

I can only hope that I have repeated this information enough that going forward others will also repeat it.
 
that's why he's on the big bucks, folks..............lend me a tenner, jimster?
You're the one trekking around in a soon-to-be gentrified suburb! Ease back on the artisanal cheeses and the 2nd or 3rd frappuccino and you'll probably find a few extra tenners in your pocket each day. :p
 

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Well no, not really. It's always been referred to as inflammation of the pubic symphisis and surrounding tendinous attachments. The reason we don't hear the term much anymore is because it's largely been stamped out after an epidemic across the football codes in the mid 2000s. Knowledge about prevention with core strength and pelvic balance brought it to a halt. Joe Daniher has recently been labeled with it however. Big H had a history with low back stress fractures which may have altered his pelvic mechanics and contributed to his current issues as speculation. He's in good hands though.
Respectfully, it can’t be osteitis pubis when it isn’t the bone that gets inflamed. If it is referred to as such, then that’s technically incorrect. I’d say it’s being mentioned less and less due in part to lumbopelvic strength/stability increasing. But it used to just be the term thrown around whenever somehow had some form of groin pain. I was misdiagnosed with OP around 16-17yo by physios when I actually had pretty severe FAI. Was just the buzz term at the time, just like “functional” or “core” is now.

Here’s hoping H is in good hands. Seems like mismanagement throughout the season which has caused this, from my view.
 
Respectfully, it can’t be osteitis pubis when it isn’t the bone that gets inflamed. If it is referred to as such, then that’s technically incorrect. I’d say it’s being mentioned less and less due in part to lumbopelvic strength/stability increasing. But it used to just be the term thrown around whenever somehow had some form of groin pain. I was misdiagnosed with OP around 16-17yo by physios when I actually had pretty severe FAI. Was just the buzz term at the time, just like “functional” or “core” is now.

Here’s hoping H is in good hands. Seems like mismanagement throughout the season which has caused this, from my view.

Google Osteitis Pubis and see how many mentions it gets in up to date literature. Go with the term pubic symphisitis if OP is too offensive. Here's hoping Harry has just had an extended run of groin soreness which is about to settle.
 

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Lucky it's November. Ideally it would be good to go through preseason with no players having injuries but that's unrealistic. End of the day if we are good enough it's not going to matter.

McKay is still likely a round 1 starter. Curnow probably unlikely but surely he doesn't miss too much of the season. Richmond had Lynch and Riewoldt out or underdone most of the season and were premiers because they were good enough. Same rules apply to us.

We're lucky to have a decent group of medium forwards with Silvagni, McGovern and Kennedy being all good options as well as Casboult and DeKoning who are more than capable of stepping up and stepping in.

Would love to have Curnow and McKay fighting fit and in good touch but it's not going to be the end of the world it they aren't.
 
Lucky it's November. Ideally it would be good to go through preseason with no players having injuries but that's unrealistic. End of the day if we are good enough it's not going to matter.

McKay is still likely a round 1 starter. Curnow probably unlikely but surely he doesn't miss too much of the season. Richmond had Lynch and Riewoldt out or underdone most of the season and were premiers because they were good enough. Same rules apply to us.

We're lucky to have a decent group of medium forwards with Silvagni, McGovern and Kennedy being all good options as well as Casboult and DeKoning who are more than capable of stepping up and stepping in.

Would love to have Curnow and McKay fighting fit and in good touch but it's not going to be the end of the world it they aren't.
Agree with this. In a strange way, what has happened to Mackay and Curnow highlights what excites me about the club. If what has happened to them now had happened a couple of years ago, I would have walked around the house quite depressed thinking, 'There goes next year'.

I would still love Harry and Charlie out training now uninjured, but now there seems greater depth, Levi is great, and there seems much more positivity and resilience. Have a much better feeling of good times ahead....
 
Looking at the amount of luck it takes to get ahead of the pack, it's bloody grim that this keeps happening to our key players.

Seems like the Club has to do everything the hard way...
still - I'm a bit of a fan of a real grind - will test the mettle of the players and coaches and plenty of time to prepare knowing maybe both Charlie and Harry won't be starting in early rounds at least. Levi/McGovern/Kennedy/SOJ/ with Betts /martin/Fisher/Cuningham won't be a soft forward line.
 
Me, in July, and for many months after that when people tried to claim his kicking action was the problem (and that it had always been a problem):

This is not new information, and it should settle on the modified program.

I can only hope that I have repeated this information enough that going forward others will also repeat it.
It was quite obvious in the latter part of the season that his kicking action had changed when taking shots at goal. He was bending his knee quite significantly & almost kicking across his body rather than kicking straight through the ball.
 
Would love to have Curnow and McKay fighting fit and in good touch but it's not going to be the end of the world it they aren't.

I can see a major positive out of this*; it forces us to play 'small ball'.

Instead of bombing the ball into the forward line, it will make us lower our eyes, look for targets, work the ball inside 50 cleverly. Chip kicks, retaining possession, more goals from midfielders etc.

Then when Charlie and Harry are back, we have more tricks up our sleeves. If you can learn to do it tough, you should fly under easier conditions - kind of like high-altitude training....

Disclaimer: Soapy V's blue-tinted glasses were not harmed during production of this post.
 
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Seems like the Club has to do everything the hard way...
still - I'm a bit of a fan of a real grind - will test the mettle of the players and coaches and plenty of time to prepare knowing maybe both Charlie and Harry won't be starting in early rounds at least. Levi/McGovern/Kennedy/SOJ/ with Betts /martin/Fisher/Cuningham won't be a soft forward line.

I just hope the two big boys can be reassembled. The Cooney and Daniher analogies don't bode well.
 

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