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Mr Bods said:
Well there you go then. Feel free to apologise all those who made the rude and personal statements at me yesterday when I brought this up.
That’s really disappointing of him if he does. He’s been without a doubt developed, given opportunity, brought in and enjoyed what we’ve collectively given him here on the GC.
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We have nothing to apologise for. You cant just attack people then cry when someone bites back. Lets leave it there I don't want to increase your persecution complex any more.

James Brayshaw IQ = 4
 
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A bit of suns talk from Knightmare. A lot of it negative about our development, no surprise there..
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One mans opinion, I would think the re-signing of a lot of our players would be some sort of an endorsement.
 
Hate the thought of losing Fiorini, he’s a gun and we will get SFA for him.

what the hell is going on, Martin, Achee, Fiorini, May, Lynch all wanting out when previously they all extended. There has to be something in the way Dew communicates and it needs resolving NOW
 

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MaySwallow4Heron said:
That doesn't say guaranteed at all. One would seem 20-30% re-injury rate pretty significant would you not?

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Yes, I should not say guaranteed. My apologies. I just did a quick paper search. One paper - not related to AFL, age not considered - 30% athletes did another ACL within 24 months after first.

I don't see any percentage mentioned by Fuller. You would expect him to be the most qualified regarding AFL. He also mentions 'the re-injury rate is higher in AFL than other sports'.

Let's see how Max King and Kemp go in their careers. I believe Lever is the case doing first ACL before draft.
 
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Iva Bigun said:
Hate the thought of losing Fiorini, he’s a gun and we will get SFA for him.

what the hell is going on, Martin, Achee, Fiorini, May, Lynch all wanting out when previously they all extended. There has to be something in the way Dew communicates and it needs resolving NOW
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To jump straight to that conclusion is interesting. I would say more to do with poor results of the past few years more than anything else. We have had a massive group re-sign this year, so there seems to be some sort of buy in to Dew's messaging.
 
Jirik13 said:
Yes, I should not say guaranteed. My apologies. I just did a quick paper search. One paper - not related to AFL, age not considered - 30% athletes did another ACL within 24 months after first.

I don't see any percentage mentioned by Fuller. You would expect him to be the most qualified regarding AFL. He mentions 'the re-injury rate is higher in AFL than other sports'
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Yeah that wouldn't surprise me if its something like 10% higher in AFL than other sports.
 
kreglze said:
One mans opinion, I would think the re-signing of a lot of our players would be some sort of an endorsement.
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Our development has been pretty hit and miss.
Martin, Day two in particular who haven't come on to expectations. Wright potentially heading this way (hopefully not).
Sexton, Thompson, Miller, Lynch, May guys who have exceeded expectations.
Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell those who got injured and never reached top capacity based on what they showed early on.
 
eppo67 said:
He's very happy and l would be flabbergasted if he goes.
And yes that is what l've been TOLD.
And start getting your Rowell Anderson jumpers out that is 250% done. Signed and sealed.
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His brother is always on the Suns FB group laughing at rumours that he wants to leave saying it is no chance. That was as recent as a couple months ago.
 
Fiorini was one of the young guys that confronted Uncle Tom about his treachery if I recall
Unlikely he'll be turning his back on his Club unless something radical happens
I know I've been a bride's nightie on Jack Martin but I now think we have to let him go
A point has been made.Carlton has had to jump through hoops to get him and we need 2 years of clear air without distractions of "will he won't he"
It's going to be weird this time next year when there has been zero media re players leaving us
Hopefully much more on the players wanting to come!
 

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kreglze said:
To jump straight to that conclusion is interesting. I would say more to do with poor results of the past few years more than anything else. We have had a massive group re-sign this year, so there seems to be some sort of buy in to Dew's messaging.
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It could be money issue. We can't continue to overpay. Ah Chee leaving is probably the first victim of our new TPP policy :)
According to Cameron since we did not get extra salary cap we basically have to follow GWS model and will let go some players, get high picks for them at some stage. In 2-3 years we can't keep all.

I like Fiorini but we do have similar types. New arrivals plus if Bowes, Brodie, Ainsworth, Mcpherson step up there will be a queue for midfield positions.

I just hope the club learned from Lynch and May saga. We can't have players to occupy leadership positions while not committed.
 
SandyToes said:
Fiorini was one of the young guys that confronted Uncle Tom about his treachery if I recall
Unlikely he'll be turning his back on his Club unless something radical happens
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So unless he signs in the off season then 2020 becomes a will he or won’t he scenario.
Hence I just want him to be like our other young champs and commit.
 
RowellAnderson12 said:
GWS Manager Adrian Caruso on the AFL Radio was explain why they took Jye Caldwell, Jackson Hately & Xavier O'Hallahan all inside mids, when Tom Green is available this year.

"You just got to take the best available, Tom may do a knee or not progress well"

If Deven Robertson is somehow there, you have to take him 100%
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I take him if available but to move up for him and sacrifice 15,20 no way, could probably go back to Eagles like Tim Kelly after two years time too, will day most probably stayed and GCS no need to worry too much apart from develop him properly, will Gould if he played AFL more will forget about going back to SA. GCS is not GWS, GWS did it right and get proper concession in the first time, GCS second chance, although AFL said not last chance, you got to focus as last chance to move up the ladder, if not kind of develop excuses mentality if thing go wrong.
 
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OB11 said:
I wonder what it would cost us to move up to Bulldogs or Port at 13 and 12 to get ahead of Cats to get a Robertson or Kemp?

Maybe 15 and our future 2nd or Lions future 2nd?
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Rumours that GC have offered 15 + 20 for Dogs 13 + 53 + change, but only in the event that Kemp is around at our pick (as Geelong would otherwise take him with 14)
 

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