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Val Keating said:
Grouping veganism and vegetarians together. It’s like how people think that Nate Diaz, the Williams sisters, Tom Brady etc are vegans when they aren’t. They eat fish and eggs.
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I'm sorry that their choices upset you so much. Maybe they should wear a sticker so that you and everyone can group them appropriately.

I could say that same about those that group every non-meat eater with the loons that protest in city centres and throw fake blood around.
 
Groin guru said:
I'm sorry that their choices upset you so much. Maybe they should wear a sticker so that you and everyone can group them appropriately.

I could say that same about those that group every non-meat eater with the loons that protest in city centres and throw fake blood around.
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Goddammit man!

Get your filing cabinet in order!

 
Groin guru said:
I'm sorry that their choices upset you so much. Maybe they should wear a sticker so that you and everyone can group them appropriately.

I could say that same about those that group every non-meat eater with the loons that protest in city centres and throw fake blood around.
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It doesn’t upset me at all. Both Brown & Siddle are vegans and the story was about plant based diets. The logical conclusion would be they’re reporting that having a plant based diet is better for your health, which is misleading.
 
Val Keating said:
It doesn’t upset me at all. Both Brown & Siddle are vegans and the story was about plant based diets. The logical conclusion would be they’re reporting that having a plant based diet is better for your health, which is misleading.
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It can be if done correctly and if you've got everything ticked off. Like any diet. I know you're a stickler for this but it isn't just black and white.

They're probably also taking into consideration that following a diet like that should (in theory) make you more aware of your choices instead of shoveling whatever is available down your throat (which Australian's do very well). The same could be said about most diets but the vege/vegan diet is up there for sweeping changes and you need to be mindful or it will be an issue especially for athletes.

Also, you would be more likely to reach the recommended vegetable intake (if done correctly) and therefore our vitamin and mineral requirements (in theory) which again is something Australian's fail miserably (we are only getting worse too. In the mid-2000s ~13% of the adult population was meeting the vegetable requirements (from memory) and now we are <10%):

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Australia's health 2018, Fruit and vegetable intake

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Groin guru said:
It can be if done correctly and if you've got everything ticked off. Like any diet. I know you're a stickler for this but it isn't just black and white.

They're probably also taking into consideration that following a diet like that should (in theory) make you more aware of your choices instead of shoveling whatever is available down your throat (which Australian's do very well). The same could be said about most diets but the vege/vegan diet is up there for sweeping changes and you need to be mindful or it will be an issue especially for athletes.

Also, you would be more likely to reach the recommended vegetable intake (if done correctly) and therefore our vitamin and mineral requirements (in theory) which again is something Australian's fail miserably (we are only getting worse too. In the mid-2000s ~13% of the adult population was meeting the vegetable requirements (from memory) and now we are <10%):

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www.aihw.gov.au

Australia's health 2018, Fruit and vegetable intake

Australia@s health 2018 is the AIHW@s 16th biennial report on the health of Australians. It examines a wide range of contemporary topics in a series of analytical feature articles and short...
www.aihw.gov.au www.aihw.gov.au
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I’m only a stickler for any claims that being vegan is better for athletes. It drives me crazy because it’s false. The ga me changers film is one of the worst examples of that...luckily it’s been so publicly debunked that if you search for it now most results are that come up are debunking it.

Being vegan to save the planet or other moral reasons are fine by me. Just don’t try to pretend that it’s better for humans.

Fact: if someone eats eggs or fish they aren’t a vegan or vegetarian.
 

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Groin guru said:
You should probably look up the definitions then :$
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Definition of vegan. : a strict vegetarian who consumes no food (such as meat, eggs, or dairy products) that comes from animals also : one who abstains from using animal products (such as leather)Sep 18, 2019
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vegetarian

a person who does not eat meat or fish, and sometimes other animal products, especially for moral, religious, or health reasons.
 
 
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