The Carlton Consensus Best 22 is returning for the 2020 season. After a stellar 3 threepeat from Matty411 I’ve been passed the baton & hopefully won’t drop the ball too often.
We’ve endured the highs & lows of the FA, DFA, trade & draft periods & come out the other end with a complete list of 45 players; 39 on the senior list, 5 Cat A rookies & Owies the Cat B.
There were 9 changes to the final list from 2019 compared to this time last year, plus a couple of mid-season retirements:
Departed: D Thomas, A Fasolo, M Lobbe, J Garlett, A Schumacher, P Kerr, A Phillips, K LeBois, J Pickett, T Bugg, J Deluca*.
New/returned/off-LTI Blues: S Docherty**, M Gibbons*, M Cottrell*, J Deluca*, E Betts, J Newnes, M Pittonet, J Martin, B Kemp, S Philp, S Ramsay, J Honey, F Phillips.
*Joined the list after the previous consensus 22. Deluca obviously signing on and being delisted in the same period.
**Docherty removed from the LTI list!
Last year Matty said 2019 “…looms as the most interesting, open and contentious Best 22 selection process yet for our club – a shining indication of the excellent young list we’re building.”
I’d say 2020 takes that a couple of steps further and there will be some bloody unlucky players to miss out this year. This will undoubtedly be the hardest to date.
For those new to this thread, here’s out it goes down:
The Rules
We will be choosing the best available 22 players to hypothetically line up for Round 1, 2020 against the Tigers at the MCG – essentially, our best starting team on paper. We’ll go through each area of the ground: first the defenders; then the mids (and ruck); then our forwards; and finally the makeup of our bench and emergencies.
As always, we have to use a few assumptions as guides:
1. All players will be fit and eligible for the round one side, this includes Charlie, Harry, Caleb & Brodie (hopefully no one else deserves mention here).
2. We will need a healthy balance of players in each part of the ground i.e. balance of talls/smalls to make a realistic starting side. You must nominate a genuine ruckman in the midfield group.
3. There are no indiscretions among players leading to disqualification from selection
4. Rookies [A + B] can be selected – any player on our current list of 44
5. You should independently choose who you believe will be the best players in each respective position to help us win Round 1 against the old enemy – and likely to continue to be a big part of our team for 2020
Here’s the results of the previous couple of years so we can track our evolution:
Consensus 2018 Lineup
FB: Ciaran Byrne (98) - Liam Jones (156) - Lachie Plowman (161)
HB: Caleb Marchbank (164) - Jacob Weitering (156) - Kade Simpson (150)
C: Sam Petrevski-Seton (175) - Ed Curnow (157) - Marc Murphy (175)
HF: Charlie Curnow (150) - Levi Casboult (108) - Jarrod Pickett (143)
FF: Matthew Wright (119) - Harry McKay (101) - Jack Silvagni (135)
R: Matthew Kreuzer (181) - Patrick Cripps (183) - Matthew Kennedy (177)
I: Tom Williamson (76) - David Cuningham (67) - Zac Fisher (64) - Paddy Dow (67)
EMG: Darcy Lang (66) - Jarrod Garlett (39) - Aaron Mullett (19)
Consensus 2019 Lineup
FB: Lachie Plowman (121) - Liam Jones (110) - Kade Simpson (146)
HB: Tom Williamson (105) - Jacob Weitering (150) - Caleb Marchbank (151)
C: Marc Murphy (99) - Ed Curnow (104) - Zac Fisher (118)
HF: Mitch McGovern (147) - Charlie Curnow (149) - S. Petrevski-Seton (114)
FF: Will Setterfield (53) - Harry McKay (149) - Alex Fasolo (116)
R: Matthew Kreuzer (132) - Patrick Cripps (152) - Paddy Dow (144)
I: Nic Newman (87) - Matthew Kennedy (87) - Jarrod Pickett (51) - Sam Walsh (40)
EMG: Lochie O'Brien (17) - Dale Thomas (8) - David Cuningham (6) - Tomas Bugg (2)
Consensus 2020 Lineup
FB: Lachie Plowman (97%), Liam Jones (99%), Kade Simpson (78%)
HB: Sam Docherty (97%), Jacob Weitering (99%), Caleb Marchbank (74%)
C: Sam Walsh (99%), Patrick Cripps (99%), Will Setterfield (97%)
HF: Mitch McGovern (96%), Harry McKay (99%), Jack Martin (94%)
FF: Eddie Betts (98%), Charlie Curnow (97%), David Cuningham (80%)
FOL: Matthew Kreuzer*, Ed Curnow (96%), Marc Murphy (96%)
INT: Sam Petrevski-Seton (63%), Jack Silvagni (53%), Zac Fisher (69%), Jack Newnes (32%)
EMG: Nic Newman (61%), Matthew Kennedy (22%), Michael Gibbons (30%), Levi Casboult*
Honourable mentions: Tom Williamson (DEF 25%), Paddy Dow (MID 29%), Lachie O'Brien (MID 19%)
On field changes from last years Consensus 22:
IN: Sam Docherty, David Cuningham, Jack Silvagni, Jack Martin, Eddie Betts, Jack Newnes
OUT: Nic Newman, Paddy Dow, Matthew Kennedy, Alex Fasolo, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Williamson
Voting
1. We will vote for the 6 best backs (starters) and your rotation player for bench spot #1 - VOTING CLOSED
2. We will vote for the 6 starting forwards and your rotation player for get bench spot #2 - VOTING CLOSED
3. We will then vote for 5 starting mids and your rotation midfielders for bench spots #3 & #4 - VOTING CLOSED
4. We'll then have a quick vote for the ruckman. - VOTING CLOSED - pretty sure we can just give it to Kreuzer
5. The emergencies will be the 8th ranked player for each position including the highest voted non-22 ruck-capable player .
6. Players will be ruled out for following position/s once successful in a particular area of the ground of account of us not being able to have two of the same player.
We’ve endured the highs & lows of the FA, DFA, trade & draft periods & come out the other end with a complete list of 45 players; 39 on the senior list, 5 Cat A rookies & Owies the Cat B.
There were 9 changes to the final list from 2019 compared to this time last year, plus a couple of mid-season retirements:
Departed: D Thomas, A Fasolo, M Lobbe, J Garlett, A Schumacher, P Kerr, A Phillips, K LeBois, J Pickett, T Bugg, J Deluca*.
New/returned/off-LTI Blues: S Docherty**, M Gibbons*, M Cottrell*, J Deluca*, E Betts, J Newnes, M Pittonet, J Martin, B Kemp, S Philp, S Ramsay, J Honey, F Phillips.
*Joined the list after the previous consensus 22. Deluca obviously signing on and being delisted in the same period.
**Docherty removed from the LTI list!
Last year Matty said 2019 “…looms as the most interesting, open and contentious Best 22 selection process yet for our club – a shining indication of the excellent young list we’re building.”
I’d say 2020 takes that a couple of steps further and there will be some bloody unlucky players to miss out this year. This will undoubtedly be the hardest to date.
For those new to this thread, here’s out it goes down:
The Rules
We will be choosing the best available 22 players to hypothetically line up for Round 1, 2020 against the Tigers at the MCG – essentially, our best starting team on paper. We’ll go through each area of the ground: first the defenders; then the mids (and ruck); then our forwards; and finally the makeup of our bench and emergencies.
As always, we have to use a few assumptions as guides:
1. All players will be fit and eligible for the round one side, this includes Charlie, Harry, Caleb & Brodie (hopefully no one else deserves mention here).
2. We will need a healthy balance of players in each part of the ground i.e. balance of talls/smalls to make a realistic starting side. You must nominate a genuine ruckman in the midfield group.
3. There are no indiscretions among players leading to disqualification from selection
4. Rookies [A + B] can be selected – any player on our current list of 44
5. You should independently choose who you believe will be the best players in each respective position to help us win Round 1 against the old enemy – and likely to continue to be a big part of our team for 2020
Here’s the results of the previous couple of years so we can track our evolution:
Consensus 2018 Lineup
FB: Ciaran Byrne (98) - Liam Jones (156) - Lachie Plowman (161)
HB: Caleb Marchbank (164) - Jacob Weitering (156) - Kade Simpson (150)
C: Sam Petrevski-Seton (175) - Ed Curnow (157) - Marc Murphy (175)
HF: Charlie Curnow (150) - Levi Casboult (108) - Jarrod Pickett (143)
FF: Matthew Wright (119) - Harry McKay (101) - Jack Silvagni (135)
R: Matthew Kreuzer (181) - Patrick Cripps (183) - Matthew Kennedy (177)
I: Tom Williamson (76) - David Cuningham (67) - Zac Fisher (64) - Paddy Dow (67)
EMG: Darcy Lang (66) - Jarrod Garlett (39) - Aaron Mullett (19)
Consensus 2019 Lineup
FB: Lachie Plowman (121) - Liam Jones (110) - Kade Simpson (146)
HB: Tom Williamson (105) - Jacob Weitering (150) - Caleb Marchbank (151)
C: Marc Murphy (99) - Ed Curnow (104) - Zac Fisher (118)
HF: Mitch McGovern (147) - Charlie Curnow (149) - S. Petrevski-Seton (114)
FF: Will Setterfield (53) - Harry McKay (149) - Alex Fasolo (116)
R: Matthew Kreuzer (132) - Patrick Cripps (152) - Paddy Dow (144)
I: Nic Newman (87) - Matthew Kennedy (87) - Jarrod Pickett (51) - Sam Walsh (40)
EMG: Lochie O'Brien (17) - Dale Thomas (8) - David Cuningham (6) - Tomas Bugg (2)
Consensus 2020 Lineup
FB: Lachie Plowman (97%), Liam Jones (99%), Kade Simpson (78%)
HB: Sam Docherty (97%), Jacob Weitering (99%), Caleb Marchbank (74%)
C: Sam Walsh (99%), Patrick Cripps (99%), Will Setterfield (97%)
HF: Mitch McGovern (96%), Harry McKay (99%), Jack Martin (94%)
FF: Eddie Betts (98%), Charlie Curnow (97%), David Cuningham (80%)
FOL: Matthew Kreuzer*, Ed Curnow (96%), Marc Murphy (96%)
INT: Sam Petrevski-Seton (63%), Jack Silvagni (53%), Zac Fisher (69%), Jack Newnes (32%)
EMG: Nic Newman (61%), Matthew Kennedy (22%), Michael Gibbons (30%), Levi Casboult*
Honourable mentions: Tom Williamson (DEF 25%), Paddy Dow (MID 29%), Lachie O'Brien (MID 19%)
On field changes from last years Consensus 22:
IN: Sam Docherty, David Cuningham, Jack Silvagni, Jack Martin, Eddie Betts, Jack Newnes
OUT: Nic Newman, Paddy Dow, Matthew Kennedy, Alex Fasolo, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Williamson
Voting
1. We will vote for the 6 best backs (starters) and your rotation player for bench spot #1 - VOTING CLOSED
2. We will vote for the 6 starting forwards and your rotation player for get bench spot #2 - VOTING CLOSED
3. We will then vote for 5 starting mids and your rotation midfielders for bench spots #3 & #4 - VOTING CLOSED
4. We'll then have a quick vote for the ruckman. - VOTING CLOSED - pretty sure we can just give it to Kreuzer
5. The emergencies will be the 8th ranked player for each position including the highest voted non-22 ruck-capable player .
6. Players will be ruled out for following position/s once successful in a particular area of the ground of account of us not being able to have two of the same player.
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