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Any videos floating around of players being drafted? I've seen the Thomson Dow one but no others.
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Draft isn’t a race...many early picks 5 years later haven’t gone on (we both had them)...2023 we’ll know the result.Melbourne won the draft/trade period by a country mile. The rest of you can sit here and munch on nuts as long as you like, you will only come up with the second best club of the draft/trade period for 2019.
No it is decided within minutes of the trade/draft these days. If your new player is going to succeed you need to have come out in front with the points differential in the clubs favor or you have wasted/lost all chance for the coming season.Draft isn’t a race...many early picks 5 years later haven’t gone on (we both had them)...2023 we’ll know the result.
GCS, GWS and Freo nailed it for mine. Then daylight, then prob Syd, Coll, and Adelaide.
GWS two top five players, maybe even top 3. GCS gave away pick 11 next year, but it’s a compromised draft, so that could easily slide to 18. Getting Flanders and Sharp seems a big bonus, so they will be v happy, and are now my second favorite team. Freo is obvious, cards fell beautifully for them. Melb I don't hate, but too many question marks to say they got it right. Syd seems like a v nice balance and great value picks, whilst Port could’ve done better imo. Coll two bargains, still not sure how that happened. Rantall upside seems huge, and Bianco height plus no massive weapons seeing him slide maybe...
North a bit bizarre, and from afar it feels like cash constraints means they can’t afford an a grade football dept. sad to watch. Plus if Kemp doesn’t recover from his knee, it could be a bust for Carlton. Hope he does though... confident and talented kid.
Any videos floating around of players being drafted? I've seen the Thomson Dow one but no others.
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How's that gone for GWS and Geelong? Two teams right in their windows and they can't find the right ruck. Cats have tried Stanley, Smith, Abbott all without luck. GWS have mixed in Dawson Simpson, Lobb, Keeffe and bough Mumford out of retirement before now turning to Jacobs. There's not always a Nankervis available. Sydney had a massive glut and he was out of contract at the right time. It won't always work like that for every team.
Viney and Oliver are as quick over a few steps as anyone - both in attack and to tackle. Petracca needs to add it both ways but he has excellent explosion with the ball. Langdon will bring the outside pace. Harmes can run with anyone. Once again, there's certainly room for one or two more and I have my doubts on Brayshaw but otherwise it's fitness and coaching to keep space and balance around the ball and execute with skills.
I'd argue the Tigers forwards and backs are the real speed until the second halves when games open up and the midfields fitness starts creating run. I'm not sure the Tigers have an inside mid with the true top end pace like Treloar - who's a heck of a player but who rarely does much damage until later in games.
More like than either of those is Pickett becomes the next Dan Rioli. Are you going to tell me he's not a good player and a good pick up and Melbourne didn't need a Dan Rioli type?
There was one Whitfield/Gaff type in the first round of this draft - Dylan Stephens. And I would've considered him with pick 3 and absolutely taken him with pick 12 but he's not am amazing contested ball winner, not supreme pace and doesn't absolutely lace the kicks. He's more Gaff than Whitfield I think, which isn't a knock. If he's not best available you can't reach at pick 3 and he didn't last until Melbourne's next pick.
Averaged 19 disposals in the WAFL colts. 22 disposals in his last 4 games after the champs.
15 disposals (11 contested), 5 clearances - despite winning 37 hit outs often down the throat of his mids who cleared the ball for him. Fraser had amazing skills for a ruck. Kreuzer crashes in at ground level really well - for a ruck. Grundy actually contributes like a midfielder and that's how they talk about Jackson.
Either he's a good pick for any team or he's not a good pick. In a couple of years Gawn will be 30 and to extend his career he'll need a partner taking the share. Dean Cox was a year younger than Gawn when Nic Nat was drafted.
Best available for what they'll do for 15 years not drafting for needs for the next 2 years.
All clubs including Richmond trade up if there is a player they know another club is interested in and want to beat them to the punch.
Its common knowledge Richmond were in to Philp so I would think that was smart trading...wouldn't you?
Here's how I rank the draft hauls from what I've seen of the players. Admittedly there were a few that I haven't seen anything of so basically just gauged it on the players I knew & then from what I've read on the others.
Gold Coast
Fremantle
Port
Sydney
Adelaide
GWS
Geelong
Hawks
Brisbane
Melbourne
Carlton
Richmond
Essendon
Bulldogs
Collingwood
North
West Coast/Saints
Ho hum. The fact is that Carlton traded up ahead of Richmond to make sure we got him; I couldn't give a stuff if Richmond were in to him or not.
Jackson is Brilliant I’ve watched him on a few occasions and I think long term he will pay off in spades I just personally feel from a needs perspective that young gives you a greater chance of going for a flag in the next 2-3 yearsThe Hawks gave up pick 18, Shane Savage and moved back from pick 19 to pick 24 for McEvoy. All up that's almost a top 10 picks worth of value.
Ottens was traded for 12 and 16, the points system values that as pick 3, although in reality I'd say it's more pick 5-8.
Darren Jolly was picks 14 and 46.
The idea that every club can go and get a Nankervis for pick 40 something isn't true. Yes, teams have waited until their window but they've paid a decent price for premiership rucks.
No AFL player can win games on their own. Grundy finished top 5 in the coaches votes and is a clear top 10 players to me. The aim of pick 3 is to get that kind of player.
I think he moves well for any sized player and his contested ball winning looks as good as if not better than most of the mids outside of Green, Robertson, Anderson, Rowell. Clearly kicking is a weakness but kicking doesn't have to be a strength for a contested player. The willingness to go forward and use either foot with vision shows great potential.
Scott's desire to move Blicavs in to the ruck to get an extra mid is the point, more than his overall skills as a ruck. For a half it was a move (amongst others) that allowed the Cats to dominate the Tigers.
I missed Greene. Petracca's at 9.5 contested possessions and 18.7, he's as close as anyone to that group of names and that's playing low midfield minutes in a bad side that needed him at CHF for ball movement. No one matches Dusty on his day - particularly as a deep forward - but at least Melbourne has a player in that range.
The point was to highlight that whilst Melbourne needs at least 1 more skilled runner the Richmond midfield is hardly exclusively classy users. The run and overlap - which Melbourne will look to counter/reproduce by actually having a preseason - is a far more important part of the game plan.
Melbourne took 2 skilled running types with their next 2 picks and will have plenty of trade and draft options in the future to keep building that part of the list.
When it comes to a premium pick like pick 3 you have to go for the overall best available and for special abilities not list needs. That's why I'm more than fine with them picking Jackson. And whilst some recruiters preferred Young or Green (or even Ash) I'm quite heartened by the comments of other recruiters who absolutely believe in the upside of Jackson.
There's a lot of signs that he can be a 20+ disposal mid with both clearance and outside linking ability and then can go forward and be a match up problem just on size and movement. If he happens to jump around in the ruck contests whilst doing that then that's cool too.
It's an opinion of what I've seen of the players. Happy to have you rank them and provide a more in depth analysis champ.Thankyou for your thoughts. Great analysis.
I really liked Sydney's first three picks. Their first two especially were real favourites of mine in this draft.
I thought Gold Coast's trade of 11 for 27 was the single worst decision of the whole off-season.
Pick 11 will turn into pick 18-20 next year after bids. In a weaker draft it’s about even
Pick 11 will turn into pick 18-20 next year after bids. In a weaker draft it’s about even
Pick 11 will turn into pick 18-20 next year after bids. In a weaker draft it’s about even
Also if Gold Coast rank Sharp as a player who is the 11th best in this years draft then he is certainly worth playing next years pick 11 for.
I agree. Flanders at 11 was GC's best pick.At this very early stage, where it is nearly impossible to tell.. IMO Melbourne had a bad one with what they had.
I think Jackson is a huge reach and risk at 3. Pickett is much the same at 12. To use picks they did on these types of players doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me and I think they would have been better served with others available or using a different trading/drafting strategy.
Obviously GC had a great hand, but really showed some balls and loaded up on what they think will set them up. Good for them, they gave up overs all over the place to get it done though.
I'm really happy with what Carlton were able to achieve, spot on from SOS and co.
Also, think Sydney picked very well, would not be shocked at all to be back here in 5 years saying they came out of this draft with an A++.