blackshadow
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That price is too highIf it takes pur 2 first rounders to get Kelly, then hope the club pulls the trigger.
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That price is too highIf it takes pur 2 first rounders to get Kelly, then hope the club pulls the trigger.
That price is too high
All depends on how he bounces back from injury.
Also - I believe hes considered captain material.
If you are using two first round picks to secure your next captain and a ten year player then it becomes pretty insignificant in the long run.
Coniglio will be captain for the rest of his career
Josh will be 26 by the time the first ball is bounced in 2021 (the earliest he could come to us).All depends on how he bounces back from injury.
Also - I believe hes considered captain material.
If you are using two first round picks to secure your next captain and a ten year player then it becomes pretty insignificant in the long run.
I mean for us.
If we spend two first to bring JK here and see him as the next captain, its not makes the two first rounders less important.
I’ve never been a fan of bringing in someone to make them captain. Got to earn that from the players.
You say that likes it's a bad thing.
Josh will be 26 by the time the first ball is bounced in 2021 (the earliest he could come to us).
Not sure where you are getting your 10 year player from.
I am glad we have serious people in charge of our list management now - not the jokers who were running things before.
Handing over 2 first rounders for an injury prone 26 year old, when we already have an older list, is ludicrous.
Josh had his chance to join us a while back but chose his path at gws - we need to move forward now and hit the draft hard and use our multiple first rounders to balance out our list with youth and skill.
You say that likes it's a bad thing.
I'm getting a badge made up.
Josh will be 26 by the time the first ball is bounced in 2021 (the earliest he could come to us).
Not sure where you are getting your 10 year player from.
I am glad we have serious people in charge of our list management now - not the jokers who were running things before.
Handing over 2 first rounders for an injury prone 26 year old, when we already have an older list, is ludicrous.
Josh had his chance to join us a while back but chose his path at gws - we need to move forward now and hit the draft hard and use our multiple first rounders to balance out our list with youth and skill.
He's still easily their most influential player when he's 100%.
Josh will be 26 by the time the first ball is bounced in 2021 (the earliest he could come to us).
Not sure where you are getting your 10 year player from.
I am glad we have serious people in charge of our list management now - not the jokers who were running things before.
Handing over 2 first rounders for an injury prone 26 year old, when we already have an older list, is ludicrous.
Josh had his chance to join us a while back but chose his path at gws - we need to move forward now and hit the draft hard and use our multiple first rounders to balance out our list with youth and skill.
Absolutely. We need to be preparing for life after Higgo, and Jack and Cunners may not be that long after him (Sad as all that sounds). Drafting a couple of long term replacements with two first round picks makes better sense to me than yet again targeting someone who has really told us twice now he is not interested. At best we get the back end of his career and the Giants get potentially two 10 year plus players.
Post also liked for the use of the word "jokers". Not enough old timers around to use the word "jokers" anymore.
He's still easily their most influential player when he's 100%.
Not when we're not playing, no.Not a fan of finals? Granted the GF left a bit to be desired.
I hope our development improves the next couple of years. I am super excited to see what Simpkin, Walker, Taylor, LDU, Thomas and Scott are capable of.
Teams contend because they bat deep with talent, we have beaten good teams when all of our stars have fired, like we did against Richmond. We can't sustain that, we can't rely on Higgins doing all the offensive work, we can't rely on just Cunnington doing the heavy lifting.
We had the fourth best clearance midfielder in Cunnington and ended up 15th for clearance differentials, Carlton had the best in Cripps and only made 8th spot. The strengths we have do not produce consistent results, we need a far more even distribution of the inside work, the tackling, the pressure and the offensive run. We can't have two or three cones in the middle when we go on the offence because they do not have the tank to play in the middle.
I think we need to evolve our game plan for the modern game. I think Kelly has all the traits for the modern game, has endurance, speed, does his fair share on the inside, can be dangerous on the outside. As long as he doesn't break down physically, he would still be a massive asset... however, it is pointless unless we fix the rest of the team. We can't wait until our kids are 26+ until they can perform on a consistent basis.
So may people have fallen for the media crap with regard to our trading.
What is the media crap who speak of? Not saying I disagree, just interested in your thoughts on the matter.
They reported over several years that we made big money offers to Andrew Gaff, Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly (multiple times) but didn't convince any of them to move clubs.