Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 2

[Vindicater]

So who is calling the shots? National Cabinet?

Dan Andrews by the look of it.

 

[Vindicater]

Anyone that believes in personal freedoms and civil liberties knows what type of person that Andrews is. Absolute scum.

Coming from you.

Classic.

 

[Kwality]

Look, as far as I am concerned, the manufacturing of Personal Protective Equipment, medical masks and equipment and medicines in general, must be manufactured in Australia because if anyone needed convincing that these things are part of the national interest and critical to the welfare and wellbeing of Australia, then these times surely have convinced even the most sceptical.

The right wing, Thatcherite Governments that we have saddled ourselves with have gutted the CSIRO, destroyed the research and innovations industries and have gutted the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Services in order to transfer the "savings", into the pockets of overseas conglomerates and the wealthy few. They have opened us up and left us at the mercy of the "markets".

It's not "socialism" or anything like that, it is common sense. We should not be relying on any other country or "market" for these critical things at anytime let alone in times such as these and what we also need, is Governments to ban the sale of such items to anyone/country until such time as there are more than enough of these materials stockpiled to meet the requirements of a pandemic/epidemic at a minutes notice.

These tragic and desperate times must ram home to us, that is, all Australian citizens, that we need to be prepared for such eventualities and not allow such a situation to arise where we are as ill-prepared as we were this time around.

We need to do what is required at whatever cost because after all, it's not as if we are a nation that is resource poor - we have vast wealth and that wealth belongs to all of us and must be used to protect our lives and not solely for making profits for multinationals and corporations.

The fuel issue is a more extreme example of us needing to be self sufficent.

Not a fan of this left/right political theory, real world is we want cheap .... we reap what we sow.

 

[QuietB]

Look, as far as I am concerned, the manufacturing of Personal Protective Equipment, medical masks and equipment and medicines in general, must be manufactured in Australia because if anyone needed convincing that these things are part of the national interest and critical to the welfare and wellbeing of Australia, then these times surely have convinced even the most sceptical.

The right wing, Thatcherite Governments that we have saddled ourselves with have gutted the CSIRO, destroyed the research and innovations industries and have gutted the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Services in order to transfer the "savings", into the pockets of overseas conglomerates and the wealthy few. They have opened us up and left us at the mercy of the "markets".

It's not "socialism" or anything like that, it is common sense. We should not be relying on any other country or "market" for these critical things at anytime let alone in times such as these and what we also need, is Governments to ban the sale of such items to anyone/country until such time as there are more than enough of these materials stockpiled to meet the requirements of a pandemic/epidemic at a minutes notice.

These tragic and desperate times must ram home to us, that is, all Australian citizens, that we need to be prepared for such eventualities and not allow such a situation to arise where we are as ill-prepared as we were this time around.

We need to do what is required at whatever cost because after all, it's not as if we are a nation that is resource poor - we have vast wealth and that wealth belongs to all of us and must be used to protect our lives and not solely for making profits for multinationals and corporations.

Imagine we didn't make toilet paper locally

 

[Northalives]

What's this "National Cabinet" malarky? How come people have become such easy pushovers? "National Cabinet" is a Scotty-from-marketing creation to give the impression that he is listening and being inclusive - what a load of bull shit that is! If it is a "national" cabinet, then how come Morrison is saying and doing one thing and the State Premiers are saying and doing other things? Where was the "National Cabinet" when the massive "boaaaat" docked in Sydney and a shit load of Covid-19 carriers walked off and into the community without even a cursory glance? Why aren't the AMA and the ALP part of this "National Cabinet" or at least invited to be on it?

Getting a host of people together in a video conference type setting for a photo opportunity and telling them this that and the other thing, and they go off and do their own thing is not how a cabinet works!

 

[Northalives]

The fuel issue is a more extreme example of us needing to be self sufficent.

Not a fan of this left/right political theory, real world is we want cheap .... we reap what we sow.

That's just it. What we need is an aggressively Australian Government doing things for Australia and it's citizens first and foremost. Hawke and Keating, Curtain and Chiffley, Gillard and Swan were all cognisant of what was happening in the world and how best for us, Australia, to make our way and if that required so called "left wing" or "right wing" or some "unique wing" policy settings or a combination of for the health and welfare of Australia and Australians, so be it.

Contrast this with Fraser and Howard. No f****ng idea what to do when the world changed drastically upon the OPEC group flexing it's muscles because they were prisoners to narrow vested interests. Howard and Costello did f**k all except transfer wealth from the poorest to the richest and put in place the mechanism for some to scam Australian taxpayers and line the pockets of the same, narrow vested interests that the UAP/Liberal Party/National Party are beholden to and completely squandered a boom time in the name of short sightedness and instantaneous wealth accumulation for the few as opposed to the many.

Then of course, we got Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison whose ideology is so restrictive and so far to the right that any thought of doing anything else than what the Chicago School prescribe is heresy and even now, those that think that Morrison and his bunch of no hopers have embraced socialism are deluding themselves.

What Morrison is doing is making sure that those that can make a profit now still can and when this is all over, what do people think he's going to do? Keep the centerlink payments to the unemployed the same or keep the level funding to health and the public service the same? Do you reckon he'll keep the staffing levels in health and the public service the same or keep the provisions to child care the same? Nah, what he'll do is what all governments captive to capitalist pig dogs do, nationalise the debt, gouge everything to the bone and when it's been all been paid off, privatise the profits.

 

[Northalives]

Imagine we didn't make toilet paper locally

Exactly!

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Look, as far as I am concerned, the manufacturing of Personal Protective Equipment, medical masks and equipment and medicines in general, must be manufactured in Australia because if anyone needed convincing that these things are part of the national interest and critical to the welfare and wellbeing of Australia, then these times surely have convinced even the most sceptical.

The right wing, Thatcherite Governments that we have saddled ourselves with have gutted the CSIRO, destroyed the research and innovations industries and have gutted the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Services in order to transfer the "savings", into the pockets of overseas conglomerates and the wealthy few. They have opened us up and left us at the mercy of the "markets".

It's not "socialism" or anything like that, it is common sense. We should not be relying on any other country or "market" for these critical things at anytime let alone in times such as these and what we also need, is Governments to ban the sale of such items to anyone/country until such time as there are more than enough of these materials stockpiled to meet the requirements of a pandemic/epidemic at a minutes notice.

These tragic and desperate times must ram home to us, that is, all Australian citizens, that we need to be prepared for such eventualities and not allow such a situation to arise where we are as ill-prepared as we were this time around.

We need to do what is required at whatever cost because after all, it's not as if we are a nation that is resource poor - we have vast wealth and that wealth belongs to all of us and must be used to protect our lives and not solely for making profits for multinationals and corporations.

Great post. Everyone should read.

 

[Northalives]

It's been passed to the S/Ts to enact in their legislation, I'm pretty sure.

In other words it's the same as when he said that it was against the law not to self isolate and when asked by a member of the press how would the Government know if someone failed to self isolate and what the fine would be, Scotty-from-marketing said that people should dob them in and that the fine was a matter for the States. In other words, don't f****ng worry about how it's going to work or even if it's true, just listen to my great words! I'm Scott Morrison, I'm the greatest, I'm going to heaven and you can all go and get f***ed if you don't think that I'm the best.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

In other words it's the same as when he said that it was against the law not to self isolate and when asked by a member of the press how would the Government know if someone failed to self isolate and what the fine would be, Scotty-from-marketing said that people should dob them in and that the fine was a matter for the States. In other words, don't f****ng worry about how it's going to work or even if it's true, just listen to my great words! I'm Scott Morrison, I'm the greatest, I'm going to heaven and you can all go and get f***ed if you don't think that I'm the best.

From what I can see, only TAS has enforced the eviction moratorium. And I'm pretty certain all S/Ts have instructed their Police around self isolation. I know that's definitely happened in NSW.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Spot on with Dan. As for ScoMo, are you a rusted on type, he's doing a good job. Get over the last election.

The challenge for both is in front of them.

He was terrible to begin with and it has been the states strong arming him to act ever since.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Why aren’t all these millionaires simply lifting the country up by their bootstraps like they supposedly did before coronavirus? It’s almost like their ideology is garbage.

The current pandemic has greatly exposed the flaws of capitalism.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Precisely. State premiers and their health departments are running this show.

Murdoch/Reinhardt/Palmer/Twiggy etc have conceded and are not managing Morrisson anymore. They will not have let go of the strings entirely though.

Yeah, Murdoch is looking at some serious lawsuits in the US.

His first response was to play politics and it has cost lives. So used to manufacturing consent, he thought the virus would bend to the will of the propaganda machine.

Twiggy was trying to make bank early correct? IIRC there were rumours of government deploying expanded use of the welfare card etc. That evaporate pretty quick. Most of these people will be in their private bunkers, waiting this thing out.

 

[HairyO]

The current pandemic has greatly exposed the flaws of capitalism.

Good thing China showed us how to handle it right, eh Comrade ?

 

[wahooo]

The current pandemic has greatly exposed the flaws of capitalism.

More accurately, it's revealed the flaws of neoliberalism. The state can't help you when it's been completely hollowed out, look at the centrelink queues, those that can't access healthcare in the US, it's a farce.

 

[Kwality]

Yeah, Murdoch is looking at some serious lawsuits in the US.

His first response was to play politics and it has cost lives. So used to manufacturing consent, he thought the virus would bend to the will of the propaganda machine.

Twiggy was trying to make bank early correct? IIRC there were rumours of government deploying expanded use of the welfare card etc. That evaporate pretty quick. Most of these people will be in their private bunkers, waiting this thing out.

Instead of making comments like that try researching them, especially Twiggy. If he is in a bunker, he's doing plenty, Google news Minderoo Foundation & choke on China.

 

[Kwality]

More accurately, it's revealed the flaws of neoliberalism. The state can't help you when it's been completely hollowed out, look at the centrelink queues, those that can't access healthcare in the US, it's a farce.

Neoliberalism, yeh roger that !!!

 

[wahooo]

Instead of making comments like that try researching them, especially Twiggy. If he is in a bunker, he's doing plenty, Google news Minderoo Foundation & choke on China.

Given my income, I wonder what I'd have to donate to be equally as generous as Twiggy. I reckon I could spare a couple of dollars.

 

[wahooo]

Given my income, I wonder what I'd have to donate to be equally as generous as Twiggy. I reckon I could spare a couple of dollars.

How come no one is praising my generosity, we're all so eager to praise the billionaires

 

[Juddism]

Anyone think the “job keeper” package will be enough? My industry (aviation) has been destroyed and will probably take 18 months to recover, and those industries that we directly feed, well, they’ll take just as long, if not longer...6 months of “job keeper” seems a little optimistic to me...then again I know a good place to buy a used A380...that could cover a few of our salaries.

 

[Gough]

Anyone think the “job keeper” package will be enough? My industry (aviation) has been destroyed and will probably take 18 months to recover, and those industries that we directly feed, well, they’ll take just as long, if not longer...6 months of “job keeper” seems a little optimistic to me...then again I know a good place to buy a used A380...that could cover a few of our salaries.

I think the whole snapback idea is is fanciful.