Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Evolved1]

It's impossible for God's creations to understand God's ways because God is so far above us. The Bible indicates however that God created man (humanity) in His image. I don't know why He did. I could speculate that perhaps He was lonely, having always been there alone throughout eternity.

A perfect god is self-sufficient with no wants, needs, or loneliness. He would exist in a constant state of enlightenment and bliss with no motivation to create people or do anything.

Keep in mind that god exists outside of time, so there would be no cumulative effects of anything due to time.

 

[Evolved1]

Probably a few reasons, maybe the church wasnt profitable when it was more relevant or maybe people there just see them as literal fairytales now, celebrated much like Christmas and Easter is elsewhere.

That's the impression I got.

 

[Vdubs]

A perfect god is self-sufficient with no wants, needs, or loneliness. He would exist in a constant state of enlightenment and bliss with no motivation to create people or do anything.

Keep in mind that god exists outside of time, so there would be no cumulative effects of anything due to time.

This is your definition of a perfect God, your pov. We have no idea about God, so it's cute that you have your definitions and parameters.

 

[iBeng]

That's the impression I got.

Tends to happen when the indoctrination system gets a spanner.

 

[iBeng]

This is your definition of a perfect God, your pov. We have no idea about God, so it's cute that you have your definitions and parameters.

Technically we could all define our own God and no one could tell us we are wrong until we are all dead.

Imagine that, a pre-death pissing contest!

 

[Vdubs]

Technically we could all define our own God and no one could tell us we are wrong until we are all dead.

Imagine that, a pre-death pissing contest!

That is why he sent Himself down in human form as Jesus Christ, who was the perfect sinless man.

 

[iBeng]

That is why he sent Himself down in human form as Jesus Christ, who was the perfect sinless man.

Please, did you see his hair? Hardly sinless.

1 Corinthians 11:14 ESV /
Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,


Ah shit.

 

[Evolved1]

What scientific proof would be enough?

Objective evidence for the existence of your god would suffice.

You have already got a Big Bang going bang.

What does the big bang have to do with biblegod?

Innate matter producing love.

The basis for love is found in evolution.

Those that are lost are now found.

That's quite vague. Many ex-Christians report improvement in their mental health after leaving Christianity.

But to answer your question .. God wants you to use your soul. He likes all things about us and has given us a wonderful canvas to express ourselves ..but God wants good strong shiny robust souls. Cherish the soul.

There's no evidence that we have a soul.

 

[iBeng]

Oh boy this is...this is just getting confusing for me now:

Numbers 6:5 ESV / 70
“All the days of his vow of separation, no razor shall touch his head. Until the time is completed for which he separates himself to the Lord, he shall be holy. He shall let the locks of hair of his head grow long.

 

[Evolved1]

This is your definition of a perfect God, your pov. We have no idea about God, so it's cute that you have your definitions and parameters.

I'm using established dictionary definitions, scientific theories, and philosophy to justify my point of view. You're redefining terms to suit your agenda (for example, Jesus is the truth), posting unscientific claims (evolution is just a theory), and hiding behind your faith as a shield against any logical reasoning.

You're providing evidence for my premise that faith is a working example of intellectual dishonesty.

 

[iBeng]

Imagine God got so bored he made this mess. What a guy. Girl. Thing. Entity. Wtf is theythem?

 

[Evolved1]

Imagine God got so bored he made this mess. What a guy. Girl. Thing. Entity. Wtf is theythem?

I'm sticking to the idea that Donald Trump is god's more sane and logically minded son.

 

[iBeng]

I'm sticking to the idea that Donald Trump is god's more sane and logical son.

Great, that means we probably already killed the Anti-Christ: Some tolerant, understanding and friendly guy called Gary or something.

 

[Evolved1]

Great, that means we probably already killed the Anti-Christ: Some tolerant, understanding and friendly guy called Gary or something.

Gary seems a lot like Barack Obama.

 

[iBeng]

Holy shit this whole passage seems...Um, is God an arseh*le?

2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife[a] is her husband,[b] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife[c] who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.[d] 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; 12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God.

 

[iBeng]

Can we legit start a thread where we go through each part of the bible so someone can explain to us mortals things like...
" Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. "

Because I think my wife wants a word...

 

[Evolved1]

Many people have moved away from Catholicism and later on become Born Again Christians, even after having been subjected to less than ideal experiences

I had a friend (now deceased) who converted from born again Christianity to Catholicism. Switching teams in the religious landscape happens all the time, and it doesn't prove anything.

People who switch football teams, on the other hand...may they burn in Hell for all eternity.

 

[Evolved1]

Can we legit start a thread where we go through each part of the bible so someone can explain to us mortals things like...
" Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. "

Because I think my wife wants a word...

Who are we to question god? God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

 

[iBeng]

I had a friend (now deceased) who converted from born again Christianity to Catholicism. Switching teams in the religious landscape happens all the time, and it doesn't prove anything.

People who switch football teams, on the other hand...may they burn in Hell for all eternity.

No offense to your friend and all respect to him, but a part of me wonders if he got to heaven and Gods like... "Buddy...you swapped to the wrong team man...Christianity was my side, Catholicism wasnt the right one Im...Im sorry man. Down you go."

 

[iBeng]

Who are we to question god? God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

Who is anyone to claim God said it?

I can go make an audio file right now that has Trump claiming to be the new God and it'd be 100% believable yet...

Is God Fake News? Shit this is complicated.

 

[Evolved1]

"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
1 Corinthians 14:33-35

I hope the good Christian men who post here are ensuring their wife keeps her trap shut in church. Women aren't particularly smart, so they can ask you questions about the sermon when you get home.

 

[Evolved1]

No offense to your friend and all respect to him, but a part of me wonders if he got to heaven and Gods like... "Buddy...you swapped to the wrong team man...Christianity was my side, Catholicism wasnt the right one Im...Im sorry man. Down you go."

She accepted the validity of the theory of evolution and was a proponent of gay rights, so I'm expecting to see her again....in Hell.

 

[iBeng]

Wait is that Old or New Testament and is that part of the Testament that is liked or ignored?

 

[iBeng]

She accepted the validity of the theory of evolution and was a proponent of gay rights, so I'm expecting to see her again....in Hell.

I should have asked he/she as well, but I'll join you both and we can roast our unroastable marshmallows together!

 

[Evolved1]

Wait is that Old or New Testament and is that part of the Testament that is liked or ignored?

It's one of those verses that only non-believers can see, like most other inconvenient passages.