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Grant Hill minus the bad knees vs LeBron would be far more reasonable.
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What don't you understand about what I said?
Yeah, you said that LeBron only quits on his team during games, or if he can find better players.I'lll cut and paste what I said before...
So, the conversation went like this.
Someone said MJ quit on his team when he went and played baseball.
So, I said that LeBron only quits on his team during games, or if he can find better players.
Then you talked about Rodman, which doesn't make sense as Jordan wasn't leaving the Bulls whether Rodman was there on not. i.e. he wasn't quitting on his team.
So, your comment made zero sense.
Yeah, you said that LeBron only quits on his team during games, or if he can find better players.
MJ only quits on his team for an entire season because he can't hack the media.
LBJ didn't quit in his team? He was in Cleveland for years trying to win with that YMCA team. Can you blame him for leaving Cleveland? And in case you missed it, he came back to Cleveland and won them a chip.
Yes agree, misinterpreted what you were saying.So, you agree with me, that your Rodman comment had nothing to do with what I was saying.
Finally we agree on something
Quitting on his team.Didn't quit on his team? Left his team mates to go play baseball because he couldn't deal with the media. You said "find better players". He got his ass whooped by the magic, went and got Rodman and won 3 rings. That's not "finding better players"?
The amazing thing to me is that this thread even existsIt's amazing this thread is 10 pages long and still nobody has put forth any kind of argument for LeBron James.
I'd argue that Bron is the 'best' player the game has seen, though. The game hasn't seen such a well-rounded freight train like him ever
Agree with that, although his 3 point shot is underrated IMO.He's not the most well rounded player though. He's an ok jump shooter, not elite though.
A very average FT shooter. He wasn't in the top 100 players in the league when the season stopped. Nothing special as a 3pt shooter either.
Agree with that, although his 3 point shot is underrated IMO.
You're only mentioning shooting skills too...
He's elite in nearly everything apart from shooting the ball. I'd say his turnovers and FT shooting are his worst skill. FT isn't "very average", I'd say around average.
He's still a very solid shooter, particularly from three. Agree with the above, he's underrated from distance, better than Jordan (I think Jordan could learn to be lights out from three if he played in this era, but that's a 'what if')He's not the most well rounded player though. He's an ok jump shooter, not elite though.
A very average FT shooter. He wasn't in the top 100 players in the league when the season stopped. Nothing special as a 3pt shooter either.
Yeah agree with this statement, it's why I think Bird is higher all-time than most think. I'd have him 7th at worst, 4th or 5th at best. He ranks higher than Shaq/Kobe/Duncan for sure (hard to say as a Laker fan lol)Well shooting is a major part of the game. Go and compare his stats with Bird's stats.
They are very similar right across the board. Just one of them was an elite shooter and one was more dominant in the paint on the offensive end (more dunks).
I don't even hate LeBron but it's not a real conversation. LeBron just isn't that close to MJ. He lacks a few things. Does have weaknesses in his game too which Jordan just didn't have.People embarrass themselves when they say it's not a real conversation.
And I love MJ and hate LeBron.
Exactly if anything... Jordan is the most well rounded player of all time. No real weaknesses. If youre nit picking anything you could point to his 3pt shooting but 3pt shooting wasn't important like it is now. And even then he wasn't a poor 3pt shooter anyways.He's not the most well rounded player though. He's an ok jump shooter, not elite though.
A very average FT shooter. He wasn't in the top 100 players in the league when the season stopped. Nothing special as a 3pt shooter either.
Jordan just didn't have
just no chink in his armour
I didnt point to it as a weak point. If we are nit picking, which people do then they always harp back to his three point shooting. I never said he'd be Steph Curry as Steph is the greatest 3pt shooter of all time. But Jordan in today's league would recognise how important the three ball is and master it. He had elite shooting technique so it's just about stepping out and perfecting from a bit deeper.The hyperbole is a bit over the top. As is your bizarre obsession with 'owning' people about how Jordan is the GOAT.
I think Jordan is the best, but if you can immediately point to his 3pt scoring as a 'weak' point, then it shows there was a chink in the armour doesn't it? Arguing that hypothetically he'd be a Steph Curry level shooter if he wanted to be, doesn't magically make it so. There's plenty of games where people worked out ways to limit Jordan's output, so he's not flawless.