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jezzajay said:
What shocks me the most out of all this is that people still listen to KG and Cornes (let alone someone actually pays them to dribble)...they were outdated and cooked in the last century ffs!!
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It's a parallel universe where a good proportion of Crows supporters still live. Bloody Victorians, Bloody Port, Our Lovely Boys. Rinse, Repeat.
 
Papa G said:
It's a parallel universe where a good proportion of Crows supporters still live. Bloody Victorians, Bloody Port, Our Lovely Boys. Rinse, Repeat.
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I left Adelaide in the late 90's... and seriously cant believe these two are still on a payroll. More the fool those that pay them. Thought they'd be well and truly done by now....over two decades later and still holding on.
 

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jezzajay said:
I left Adelaide in the late 90's... and seriously cant believe these two are still on a payroll. More the fool those that pay them. Thought they'd be well and truly done by now....over two decades later and still holding on.
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In fairness to KG, he tried to retire. Because of this, people stopped listening, would you believe it, so they went and both Triple M and 5AA have bought him back. It says as much about the audience as it it does about him. I have no defence for Graham.


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BronCrow said:
In fairness to KG, he tried to retire. Because of this, people stopped listening, would you believe it, so they went and both Triple M and 5AA have bought him back. It says as much about the audience as it it does about him. I have no defence for Graham.


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Well you had McDermott on air for awhile but he was sacked for not stroking AFC egos & cracking into them, so 'Bitter Bone' got boned and you ended up with Bickley, Wrinkles on a weekend & the corpse of KG Cunningham.
 
Smooth Criminal said:
They will not get far with old mate kenny still at the helm if the past five years are anything to go by.

As for us, we look to be the reincarnation of 2013 Melbourne :huh:
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Port fans may disagree but holding on to Kern (even for financial constraint reasons) has really worked in Port's favours.

Most of the current Port players seem to love him, and Kern had the cojones to discard the popular but conditional footballers who were not committed to the club as they should have been AKA Wingard and Polec.

Granted I truly believe Adelaide found their right coach for their next flag in Phil Walsh before his heartbreaking, soulless and insensible death, I have no doubt, were he still with us, he would still be coaching Adelaide by now. Walsh (speaking as an outsider from Victoria) seemed to have understood and coached The Crows and their SA culture to a hilt, without apologises for doing it his way.

Can't help but think Ken Hinkley is cut from The same cloth, was an outsider from Victoria, but has embraces The Famous Port Adelaide creed and traditional, whilst still having enough outsider/non emotive views to make tough calls on list management issues.
 
BACCS said:
The story with Neale is that he left Perth as it was a fishbowl and absolutely had no desire to head to another fishbowl. Was always going to a non AFL dominant state.

Any reason why you picked out the Crows and ignored Port? We are in the same state.
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I would assume because you have a greater need for midfield talent and should have a massive war chest to use to fill it with all the players that have left?

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BronCrow said:
In fairness to KG, he tried to retire. Because of this, people stopped listening, would you believe it, so they went and both Triple M and 5AA have bought him back. It says as much about the audience as it it does about him. I have no defence for Graham.


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Yep...certainly does say a lot about those that choose to listen to them.
 
Elmer_Judd said:
Port fans may disagree but holding on to Kern (even for financial constraint reasons) has really worked in Port's favours.

Most of the current Port players seem to love him, and Kern had the cojones to discard the popular but conditional footballers who were not committed to the club as they should have been AKA Wingard and Polec.

Granted I truly believe Adelaide found their right coach for their next flag in Phil Walsh before his heartbreaking, soulless and insensible death, I have no doubt, were he still with us, he would still be coaching Adelaide by now. Walsh (speaking as an outsider from Victoria) seemed to have understood and coached The Crows and their SA culture to a hilt, without apologises for doing it his way.

Can't help but think Ken Hinkley is cut from The same cloth, was an outsider from Victoria, but has embraces The Famous Port Adelaide creed and traditional, whilst still having enough outsider/non emotive views to make tough calls on list management issues.
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Yeah I believe Walsh would have coached us for a long time, and would have had us truly contending for much longer than we did with Pyke. So, so heartbreaking what happened. Wish his mantra of "elite standards" stuck around at AFC. It didn't.
 
Damon_3388 said:
Two and a half years later...

Sure, nobody quite expected this level of insipidness from the Crows (nobody expected the pandemic either, or knows how it has mentally and physically affected each individual player), but nobody expected them to be good, did they? With the off-season exodus of (mostly past-their-prime or heavily flawed) players, weren't most people tipping Adelaide to be a bottom 6 side pre-season anyway? Those that weren't need to take a look at Adelaide's list, and realise it's not 2017 anymore.

Their players in the prime age group (25-29 years of age) mostly seem to be defenders, or half back/wing types, with a few blokes who are borderline or not best 22 in there as well.

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There's 4 former All-Australians in that group, but overall, it's not really a prime set to get especially excited about TBH.

They really need a few more from that next age group down (22-24, 4th-6th season mostly) to kick on this year:

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What's holding that group back? Is it opportunity? Talent? Mindset? Coaching? A lot of those guys are shaping as delisting candidates over the next couple of years, if they don't ramp up their output considerably over the next 6-12 months.
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Why do they have two guys aged 25 who have played a grand total of 2 games on their list? Am I the only one who strikes that as odd?
 
Enviable Tradition said:
I would assume because you have a greater need for midfield talent and should have a massive war chest to use to fill it with all the players that have left?

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At the time Neale left the issues with our midfield weren’t as great, certainly wasn’t the gap with Port as there is clearly now. Neale was also never coming to SA, so it’s a moot point anyway.
 

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1990crow said:
McAdam and Wilson.
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I didn’t realise McAdam was 25! In any case, he was picked up as a mature aged player and should debut this week. Geelong actually would’ve taken him with their 20s pick in 2018 if he wasn’t a pre-selection, many recruiters were excited by his leap, marking ability and breakout season at Sanfl level that year. Fitness was the issue which he has hopefully sorted by now.

Wilson was a speculative rookie pick who is likely gone at the end of the season.
 
Are you Adelaide supporters worried because your team has never been this bad?

Hell, look at where Brisbane was in 2016:

Only 3 wins, and they were against Gold Coast, Essendon and Carlton​
Started the year 1–15​
Conceded an average of 131​
Whipped by the Crows in Round 20 to the tune of 177–39​
Finished 17th by a ridiculously small percentage above the depleted Essendon​

And that was followed up by two 5–17 seasons with a wooden spoon in 2017.
But we got through it.

Have faith, and stick with your club.

Regards, Lemon Boi :lemon:
 
Lemon Boi said:
Are you Adelaide supporters worried because your team has never been this bad?

Hell, look at where Brisbane was in 2016:

Only 3 wins, and they were against Gold Coast, Essendon and Carlton​
Started the year 1–15​
Conceded an average of 131​
Whipped by the Crows in Round 20 to the tune of 177–39​
Finished 17th by a ridiculously small percentage above the depleted Essendon​

And that was followed up by two 5–17 seasons with a wooden spoon in 2017.
But we got through it.

Have faith, and stick with your club.

Regards, Lemon Boi :lemon:
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Not at all! Excited to watch draft night and watch some elite talent finally walk into the club (and hopefully not out of it) with prospect of getting some super players to watch grow.
Right now it's pretty bleak in terms of crowd pulling star youngsters.
Fogarty looks good but being made to look bad by a terrible midfield.
Doedee a class above. Milera ok but still hasn't clicked.
Jones has a long way to go. McHenry too. Both should make it but won't ever be stars in my mind.
Schoenberg drafted in 2019 looks like a player, Josh Worrell and Will Hamill exciting talents.
It's clear we need to draft a gun mid and key forward over the next couple of years.
 

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TP86 said:
Caro said on Footy Classified last night that the club’s spin doctors are still briefing media to downplay the impact of the camps. Which remains a fairly obvious smoking gun as to the source of their problems. So many people in this thread are looking for football and drafting based reasons for their decline and it’s a red herring. The issue is no matter which talent or staff walk in the door, there is no trust in the institution due to the unresolved problems and continued denial about the camp.
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Well if you have no trust in your management nothing will improve

What remains unresolved? Is there stuff about the camps that is yet to surface?
 
PAFC_1870 said:
I know we do, unsure of them.

I'm not for one second relating the majority of the Crows fans on here as an issue, as they clearly are passionate, but the sheer volume of those who don't really care out there, and just lap up whatever they say and do holds them back greatly imo. You only need to listen to 5AA for an hour to hear it.
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Dude, life's too short.
 
Iago said:
Why do they have two guys aged 25 who have played a grand total of 2 games on their list? Am I the only one who strikes that as odd?
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If you're referring to Patrick Wilson, he was dominant at SANFL level before the Crows drafted him, and that continued for the Crows SANFL side last year too.

The Crows and the Power have made a habit of picking out the better mature-aged South Australian talent over the last few years for Rookie List/late draft spots. Shane McAdam is another example of this. A cynic would say it's designed to weaken the other SANFL sides, but it might just be a "free swing, see how he goes" situation too.
 

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