USA US Police 40 % domestic violence

[Ron The Bear]

Dedicated to...

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Or change the nature of the job from confrontation and intervention to de-escalation and prevention.

Of course, the latter won't get support from the 'tough on crime' crowd...

If only everyome played nice

 

[Gethelred]

If only everyome played nice

Having methods of de-escalation being the primary means of dealing with potentially violent situations does not entail that police cannot ever use violence.

There is a reason de-escalation and crime prevention has better results over time than hard line policing.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Having methods of de-escalation being the primary means of dealing with potentially violent situations does not entail that police cannot ever use violence.

There is a reason de-escalation and crime prevention has better results over time than hard line policing.

I'm pretty sure that's how they already operate, perhaps they just need better training. De-escalation can be slotted in here anywhere you like.

Presence
Voice commands
Empty hand gestures (hand signals, directions)
Closed hand tactics (striking, restraining)
Non-Lethal Weapons (tazer, oc / capsicum spray, baton)
Lethal force

You can run through the above or you can skip levels and even go directly to lethal force if the situation dictates it.

There are situations when a big burly bloke / s would come in handy.

Have you seen the video doing the rounds of the two coppers in Sydney trying to restrain the bloke in what looks like a courtyard? The first copper is male and looks about 15 and 50kg wringing wet and shitting himself, the second copper is a female and you don't see her make an appearance until the male has tazered the bloke in the head. It's an absolute mess, the person they're trying to restrain seems to be offering no resistance yet they still saw fit to tase him.

I don't know what's led up to this but have a watch of the video on this, what a farce.

'I'm not even fighting you': Footage shows man being tasered by officer during arrest

A police review is underway after footage emerged of a man being tasered repeatedly by an officer in Sydney's eastern suburbs.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Will this help to stop, 40% of cops bashing their partners?

In America, who knows. What about here?

 

[BeligerentBlue]

The praetorian guard was more a bodyguard than a police force no?

They acted as police, quelling riots, crowd control, investigating civil and political intrigues etc for years but got too powerful so they brought in the " cohorts urbanae" which then acted as police.
If you abolish police the rich will still have their private police as they always have, it is the poor that get mouth raped when none are around.

 

[Marcel Proust]

They acted as police, quelling riots, crowd control, investigating civil and political intrigues etc for years but got too powerful so they brought in the " cohorts urbanae" which then acted as police.
If you abolish police the rich will still have their private police as they always have, it is the poor that get mouth raped when none are around.

Wiki has them under secret police. is interesting. They choose well after taking out Nero.

I didn't know the ancient Greeks had cops. Makes sense with blokes like Draco

 

[Navyblues09]

Given the reports where the 40% was suggested were done in the early 1990s, those cops are probably all retired.

What is the current percentage?

Plus its in America.

Are there any Australian statistics?

I wonder what the % of police getting hospitalised due to assaults is vs their partners.

Does anyone look closely at stats or just read something on Twitter and assume its real?

According to the Greens it’s firefighters who Australian women need to be afraid of!

 

[HairyO]

According to the Greens it’s firefighters who Australian women need to be afraid of!

Explains their willingness to let the country burn rather than allow sensible burnoff policies.

 

[Marcel Proust]

In America, who knows. What about here?

I doubt the information is available to the public. If at all documented.

 

[Leeda]

What's your industry, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm in banking so there's plenty of terrible people, but not the violent kind of terrible.

Haha.. you might dissolve yourself of the terrors of the dubious banking system but you'll never dissuade me from being Frank...
you'll never be that good.. much like a lecher in a porno movie..

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Queensland police leaders ‘grappling’ with rise in officers accused of domestic violence

Force shifts its public response to problem, acknowledging officers should be held to higher standard than general community

www.theguardian.com

Queensland Police finally starting to recognise the problem. And they're right that police officers need to be held to a higher standard than the rest of the community.

 

[Leeda]

And that is reported domestic violence, so the actual figures would be higher.

Does the job attract terrible people, or does the job make people terrible? Likely both.

Hmmlatitude

 

[Leeda]

Who cares about the USA, what are the stats for Australia?

America have forfeited their right to be held up as an example of anything, good, bad or indifferent to the civilised world. It's time to look elsewhere or within.

Na you are too popular...get over your self

 

[Marcel Proust]

Who cares about the USA, what are the stats for Australia?

America have forfeited their right to be held up as an example of anything, good, bad or indifferent to the civilised world. It's time to look elsewhere or within.

Meet Australia's first police squad going after abusive officers

A groundbreaking initiative aimed at holding abusive police employees to account comes ahead of an expected spike in reports and prosecutions over family violence.

www.abc.net.au

Victoria Police grappling with 'crisis' of family violence by serving officers

New figures obtained by ABC News show dozens of Victoria Police officers have been charged with family violence offences in the past five years but only one was found guilty and none had convictions recorded.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Saint]

Not as bad as the terrorists in the Spanish CNI....

 

[Baldur]

And that is reported domestic violence, so the actual figures would be higher.

Does the job attract terrible people, or does the job make people terrible? Likely both.

Both would be my guess as well.

People who seek power do so becouse they want power. Power corrupts and in my life experience the most corrupting power is petty power not great power. There are very few checks and balances on petty power and its almost always personal, in your face, the power junkie gets a hit right away. Police and some public servant jobs are great places for those with such desires. Than the family fails to comply, the power junkie lashes out to get their fix.

Then there is the job itself, its stressful and you run into lots of nasty violent aholes as well as seeing lots more domestic violence than most people. Stress, normalised violence and domestic abuse. Not surprising it bleeds over into their own lives.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Both would be my guess as well.

People who seek power do so becouse they want power. Power corrupts and in my life experience the most corrupting power is petty power not great power. There are very few checks and balances on petty power and its almost always personal, in your face, the power junkie gets a hit right away. Police and some public servant jobs are great places for those with such desires. Than the family fails to comply, the power junkie lashes out to get their fix.

Then there is the job itself, its stressful and you run into lots of nasty violent aholes as well as seeing lots more domestic violence than most people. Stress, normalised violence and domestic abuse. Not surprising it bleeds over into their own lives.

Would be a tough job. No doubt