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To be fair, you could argue that all those competitions that have withdrawn think they know better than the Federal CMO, the State CHO, the Prime Minister and the Premier - all of whom have said community sport is safe to resume.
Logically transmission in outdoor environments is rare. You can't help but think these decisions are being driven primarily by money and they are hiding behind the umbrella of 'health' as a reason.

I do agree that there is no point reconsidering the decision. They've made it and they need to stand by it.

You are missing the point...schools were safe 7 weeks ago remember!! How many schools have closed since. These are because teachers (adults) are a higher risk and parents (adults) are a higher risk and family (mainly adults) are at a higher risk...
Enter junior football adults (parents) as coaches, adults (parents) as volunteers.

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Will any of us be amazed if the league try to run a season with a mix of A, B & C Grade clubs starting in a few weeks. Stay tuned on this.
Hopefully they do , as I think this might be the only way a few clubs eventually stand up and call for a spill of the board.
 
This is insane.......

Every other league has foremost conscientiously considered the safety and wellbeing of its members in its decision. All except the EDFL, where some ridiculously think they can still play out a modified season.

Yet the EDFL sits amidst the states biggest Covid-19 hotspots......

Just one question. If the completion is now forced to go ahead. Will the clubs be getting wavers signed by its members and volunteers?

Just in case of an outbreak directly related to the club. Where they may have been negligent in administering Covid protocols and someone was to contract and spread the virus. While also then having to sit out from their jobs or even worse have their lives put in jeopardy.


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Yes.. best of luck to all those volunteer COVID-19 officers.. see you in court
 
Will any of us be amazed if the league try to run a season with a mix of A, B & C Grade clubs starting in a few weeks. Stay tuned on this.
Hopefully they do , as I think this might be the only way a few clubs eventually stand up and call for a spill of the board.
What purpose does this type of season do? Zero chance I’m afraid
 
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EFNL CEO Troy Swainston said: “The EFNL (Eastern Football Netball League) has maintained a view throughout this process that we do not want one club to come back next year worse off than they are now.”
 
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Will any of us be amazed if the league try to run a season with a mix of A, B & C Grade clubs starting in a few weeks. Stay tuned on this.
Hopefully they do , as I think this might be the only way a few clubs eventually stand up and call for a spill of the board.
That would be a real rip snorter of a season 👍
 
I can’t believe there’s actually people on this thread that think a season is still a chance. I know corona is making people do some strange things, but you and the EDFL big wigs are dillusional to put it politely!
It’s why the spread has got worse as some people don’t take things seriously and only think of themselves and the now! rather than the safety of others in the community. Always people who think they are above the law..
 
You are missing the point...schools were safe 7 weeks ago remember!! How many schools have closed since. These are because teachers (adults) are a higher risk and parents (adults) are a higher risk and family (mainly adults) are at a higher risk...
Enter junior football adults (parents) as coaches, adults (parents) as volunteers.

See the link?


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Schools are still safe. That has been the consistent advice from all the leading medical authorities, both at a federal and at a state level.
Why do people think they know more about this stuff then them?

Besides which there are 2500 schools in Victoria of which a handful have been temporarily closed for cleaning.

Now if people believe they know more about the virus than the experts, then call it out - otherwise don't feed us this rubbsh about leagues/clubs being closed down for 'health' reasons.
May as well say we are closing for financial reasons or for panic reasons.
 

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Schools are still safe. That has been the consistent advice from all the leading medical authorities, both at a federal and at a state level.
Why do people think they know more about this stuff then them?

Besides which there are 2500 schools in Victoria of which a handful have been temporarily closed for cleaning.

Now if people believe they know more about the virus than the experts, then call it out - otherwise don't feed us this rubbsh about leagues/clubs being closed down for 'health' reasons.
May as well say we are closing for financial reasons or for panic reasons.
Is there anything wrong with not playing due to financial reason. Some clubs that’s probably the case. Some clubs out there struggle to generate enough money every year. It’s should be the committees decision to decide whether they financial can afford to play this year.
 
Is there anything wrong with not playing due to financial reason. Some clubs that’s probably the case. Some clubs out there struggle to generate enough money every year. It’s should be the committees decision to decide whether they financial can afford to play this year.
Absoloutly nothing wrong with that.
 
Schools are still safe. That has been the consistent advice from all the leading medical authorities, both at a federal and at a state level.
Why do people think they know more about this stuff then them?

Besides which there are 2500 schools in Victoria of which a handful have been temporarily closed for cleaning.

Now if people believe they know more about the virus than the experts, then call it out - otherwise don't feed us this rubbsh about leagues/clubs being closed down for 'health' reasons.
May as well say we are closing for financial reasons or for panic reasons.
If you look at the cross over alone schools have a level of containment, but if you look at local football the junior players will have direct close contact with three clubs from different locations in a two week period. An extension is that if one player transfers in the first game, by game three it could be six clubs and alot more schools!
This fact alone presents as a huge issue especially with a regular period of no detection amongst children.
Is there no community responsibility to save lives?
 
If you look at the cross over alone schools have a level of containment, but if you look at local football the junior players will have direct close contact with three clubs from different locations in a two week period. An extension is that if one player transfers in the first game, by game three it could be six clubs and alot more schools!
This fact alone presents as a huge issue especially with a regular period of no detection amongst children.
Is there no community responsibility to save lives?
Can we leave that with the health officials to decide and not Club Presidents, most of whom have no medical experience whatsoever.
The current advice is that its safe and that the risk of transmission is very low. Why are people wanting to go against that medical advice?
 
If you look at the cross over alone schools have a level of containment, but if you look at local football the junior players will have direct close contact with three clubs from different locations in a two week period. An extension is that if one player transfers in the first game, by game three it could be six clubs and alot more schools!
This fact alone presents as a huge issue especially with a regular period of no detection amongst children.
Is there no community responsibility to save lives?
You do realise child to child transfer are less likely to occur. Most children will get it from outside the school. The reason the schools are cleaned is to stop the transfer to the adults (teachers/school staff). So the main issue at a junior footy game will be the parents congregating around watching the game and not self distancing.
 
Can we leave that with the health officials to decide and not Club Presidents, most of whom have no medical experience whatsoever.
The current advice is that its safe and that the risk of transmission is very low. Why are people wanting to go against that medical advice?
Isn't it a moot point for whether there should be a 2020 senior local footy season Hooksy because regardless of whether it was health reasons or financial there are approximately 47 local football leagues in Victoria and of those 47 leagues 40 leagues (approx 800 clubs) and of the 7 leagues still standing approx 15 clubs within those leagues have cancelled their senior 2020 season stating both health and financial reasons. It might be a live debate regards junior though because most leagues and clubs who have cancelled have left open the option for juniors pending return to play guidelines that continue to allow it.
 
Isn't it a moot point for whether there should be a 2020 senior local footy season Hooksy because regardless of whether it was health reasons or financial there are approximately 47 local football leagues in Victoria and of those 47 leagues 40 leagues (approx 800 clubs) and of the 7 leagues still standing approx 15 clubs within those leagues have cancelled their senior 2020 season stating both health and financial reasons. It might be a live debate regards junior though because most leagues and clubs who have cancelled have left open the option for juniors pending return to play guidelines that continue to allow it.
Come on Cheap it should be one in all in - Seniors cancelled then Juniors must be cancelled.

You will recall i accepted the umpires decision last week, it is just that what has come to light is the umpire was not legally permitted to make that decision.

We now wait for the vote tonight of who is a NO - then we have the official umpire decision
 
Isn't it a moot point for whether there should be a 2020 senior local footy season Hooksy because regardless of whether it was health reasons or financial there are approximately 47 local football leagues in Victoria and of those 47 leagues 40 leagues (approx 800 clubs) and of the 7 leagues still standing approx 15 clubs within those leagues have cancelled their senior 2020 season stating both health and financial reasons. It might be a live debate regards junior though because most leagues and clubs who have cancelled have left open the option for juniors pending return to play guidelines that continue to allow it.
Yes - seniors are probably too far gone now.
I don't agree with what they have done, but whats done is done.
 
You do realise child to child transfer are less likely to occur. Most children will get it from outside the school. The reason the schools are cleaned is to stop the transfer to the adults (teachers/school staff). So the main issue at a junior footy game will be the parents congregating around watching the game and not self distancing.
I think you/we all of us are possibly thinking about this the wrong way.

As a local footy forum, debating about the science behind kids transmission rates or the aggregate effect of kids interacting at school or a local footy club on the community transmission rates in Victoria compared to adult sport isn't the debate that really matters.

In practice at a league and local football club administration level, the focus should be on what does trying to put on or execute a shortened junior local AFL footy season look like in this overall environment.

For example how likely will it be that clubs will get shut down for cleaning and or isolation of groups of players etc.. and in practice how likely will it be that a tight 9 week season with no buffers will be interrupted often enough to render a competiton meaningless?

If on balance if we thought if it happens 3 times in the next 9 weeks where a team in a competition had to pull out of a round of footy that it would render that competition meaningless then that information might be meaningful in informing whether junior football competitions should run.

Take the Abers Under 14 kid who tested positive yesterday or the rumoured St Bernards kid or Strathmore Kid, if we were playing games this week would the Abers Under 14 team be able to play this week, if the kid played the weekend before does the opposition team they played need to be shut down pending testing because keep in mind there is no recorded footage for clubs to pass onto the DHS to rule out or isolate known contacts so they have to assume all possibly had close contact.

Let's look at the current schools and childcare centre shutdowns as at today, if Horse and Hooksy are right that the statistics will play out similar in junior footy clubs as schools then we can assume that similar numbers of junior football clubs in the EDFL catchment will be shut down at any given time over the next 9 weeks. So based on the below maybe 9 junior local footy clubs will be shut down on a rolling basis which means there will be approx. 9 teams not fielding teams each week across the Junior EDFL competitions?

Just a thought starter.

1 Footscray High School (Kinnear Campus) Kinnear St, Footscray
2 Port Phillip Specialist School Nott St, Port Melbourne
3 Queen of Peace Primary School Everingham Rd, Altona Meadows
4 Maribyrnong College River St, Maribyrnong
5 Al-Taqwa College Sayers Rd, Truganina
6 Aitken Hill Primary School Rhyolite Dr, Craigieburn
7 Ascot Vale Primary School Bank St, Ascot Vale
8 Essendon-Keilor College (Essendon Campus) Buckley St, Essendon
9 St Bernard's College Rosehill Road, Essendon
10 Moreland Primary School Moreland Rd, Coburg

11 Camberwell Grammar Mont Albert Rd, Canterbury
12 Hume Central Secondary College Blair St, Broadmeadows
13 Parkwood Green Primary School Community Hub, Hillside


1 Guardian Childcare and Education Flockhart St, Abbotsford
2 Guardian Childcare and Education Cumberland Rd, Pascoe Vale
3 Gowrie Clare Court Early Learning Centre Court St, Yarraville
 
Schools are still safe. That has been the consistent advice from all the leading medical authorities, both at a federal and at a state level.
Why do people think they know more about this stuff then them?

Besides which there are 2500 schools in Victoria of which a handful have been temporarily closed for cleaning.

Now if people believe they know more about the virus than the experts, then call it out - otherwise don't feed us this rubbsh about leagues/clubs being closed down for 'health' reasons.
May as well say we are closing for financial reasons or for panic reasons.

Dan Andrews has also said community contact sports is still fine and only wanted to tighten down on gatherings in houses. So why we assuming we know better then those officials and cancelling leagues.

That’s the same argument....


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Take the Abers Under 14 kid who tested positive yesterday or the rumoured St Bernards kid or Strathmore Kid, if we were playing games this week would the Abers Under 14 team be able to play this week, if the kid played the weekend before does the opposition team they played need to be shut down pending testing because keep in mind there is no recorded footage for clubs to pass onto the DHS to rule out or isolate known contacts so they have to assume all possibly had close contact.

Let's look at the current schools and childcare centre shutdowns as at today, if Horse and Hooksy are right that the statistics will play out similar in junior footy clubs as schools then we can assume that similar numbers of junior football clubs in the EDFL catchment will be shut down at any given time over the next 9 weeks. So based on the below maybe 9 junior local footy clubs will be shut down on a rolling basis which means there will be approx. 9 teams not fielding teams each week across the Junior EDFL competitions?

Just a thought starter.

1 Footscray High School (Kinnear Campus) Kinnear St, Footscray
2 Port Phillip Specialist School Nott St, Port Melbourne
3 Queen of Peace Primary School Everingham Rd, Altona Meadows
4 Maribyrnong College River St, Maribyrnong
5 Al-Taqwa College Sayers Rd, Truganina
6 Aitken Hill Primary School Rhyolite Dr, Craigieburn
7 Ascot Vale Primary School Bank St, Ascot Vale
8 Essendon-Keilor College (Essendon Campus) Buckley St, Essendon
9 St Bernard's College Rosehill Road, Essendon
10 Moreland Primary School Moreland Rd, Coburg

11 Camberwell Grammar Mont Albert Rd, Canterbury
12 Hume Central Secondary College Blair St, Broadmeadows
13 Parkwood Green Primary School Community Hub, Hillside


1 Guardian Childcare and Education Flockhart St, Abbotsford
2 Guardian Childcare and Education Cumberland Rd, Pascoe Vale
3 Gowrie Clare Court Early Learning Centre Court St, Yarraville
I don't disagree with your thought process but we need to keep it in perspective. That is 13 schools out of 2500 in the state or 0.52% of all schools.

As far as opposition teams not being able to play etc, then that is up to the Dept of Health to decide. The general rule is 15 minutes of face to face contact in a confined setting such as a lift or 2 hours in the same office or room. As we saw with Conor McKenna, you would think all the players that trained with him would be quarantined going by the vision but in the end it was only one player.

So only risk in my view is if another kid travelled in the same car as infected kid to a game.
 
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