Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 14

[Portwon]

I can't think of another sport in the world that brings in so many rule changes that actually make the game worse.

And is there another sport that does it despite continually told by its fan base to "stop changing the rules you muppets"

 

[finbarr]

While simultaneously boasting that it’s the greatest game on earth.

When’s the last time basketball or soccer — the two most universally-beloved games on the planet — completely overhauled its rules from week-to-week and year-on-year because they’re pathologically concerned about the product. Or aesthetic. Or onfield direction.

It’s mental.

I think one of the problems is that Australian Football is essentially a lawless, chaotic game. Yes, it has rules about contact and so forth, but it's a rather structureless sport. Throwing even more confusion into that mix is fraught with problems.

 

[edgie]

I don't really follow Basketball or Soccer, but have the those coaches and teams been implementing gameplans that take the game further away from what it was and what it looked like as pronounced as what happens in the AFL?

 

[edgie]

And is there another sport that does it despite continually told by its fan base to "stop changing the rules you muppets"

Fans want it both ways though. We complain about shitty low scoring overly defensive and cautious games, but don't want the league to do anything about it, so of course teams will do that if that's what they believe will get them wins.

 

[tribey]

I don't really follow Basketball or Soccer, but have the those coaches and teams been implementing gameplans that take the game further away from what it was and what it looked like as pronounced as what happens in the AFL?

Soccer’s always had wildly differing philosophies that have been fascinating to see clash, wax and wane (Italy = ultra defensive; Brazilian = free flowing attack; English = physicality, running & direct play; and so on).

Here in Australia Kevin Sheedy has the idea of getting his players to hold a lead by chipping it around in the backhalf and the league immediately responds by extending the marking distance from 10 to 15 metres lol.

 

[philthy05]

I don't really follow Basketball or Soccer, but have the those coaches and teams been implementing gameplans that take the game further away from what it was and what it looked like as pronounced as what happens in the AFL?

basketball hasn’t changed as much. It’s just played at a faster pace using scoring rate to beat teams. Basically a scoring arms race. But positions changed a great deal.

Point guards became score first. Power forwards disappeared into another wing position. Centre position became rubbish.

 

[finbarr]

One rule change i'd like to see would be the free kick for out on the full to be taken from where the ball was kicked, not where it crossed the line. Might promote more corridor play instead of long down the line. Would also encourage fullbacks who kick in after a behind to go more down the middle rather than heading towards the line for a break even boundary throw in stoppage.

 

[edgie]

Soccer’s always had wildly differing philosophies that have been fascinating to see clash, wax and wane (Italy = ultra defensive; Brazilian = free flowing attack; English = physicality, running & direct play; and so on).

Here in Australia Kevin Sheedy has the idea of getting his players to hold a lead by chipping it around in the backhalf and the league immediately responds by extending the marking distance from 10 to 15 metres lol.

Were the Italians up in arms over their teams defensive attitudes?

 

[tribey]

Were the Italians up in arms over their teams defensive attitudes?

On the contrary, it’s practically their national identity.

 

[JimmyBC]

I hate changes to the game every year but watch 10 minutes of the 2008 GF if you wanna see rule changes they got right... the old concede point reset from kick out Clarko special was ugly as fck.

 

[edgie]

I hate changes to the game every year but watch 10 minutes of the 2008 GF if you wanna see rule changes they got right... the old concede point reset from kick out Clarko special was ugly as fck.

If they were willing to concede a score to get the footy, their choice to run the risk. Also Geelong missed a lot of chances that day themselves.

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[JimmyBC]

If they were willing to concede a score to get the footy, their choice to run the risk. Also Geelong missed a lot of chances that day themselves.

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They were running the ball over under no pressure at all it was shit they had to crack down on it.

 

[chimmez]

What was Mark Robinson apolgising for at the end of 360 tonight? Besides his lid, cause he really should be apologising for that monstrosity.

 

[Cuzz09]

If they were willing to concede a score to get the footy, their choice to run the risk. Also Geelong missed a lot of chances that day themselves.

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If Geelong kicked straight in the 2nd qtr the rushed points mean nothing

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[OneGreatClub]

Sigh

 

[Cuzz09]

What was Mark Robinson apolgising for at the end of 360 tonight? Besides his lid, cause he really should be apologising for that monstrosity.

I think he called Leon Cameron a campaigner

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[JimmyBC]

If Geelong kicked straight in the 2nd qtr the rushed points mean nothing

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The result is irrelevant it was shit for the game.

 

[raman]

I think he called Leon Cameron a campaigner

Yeah but what was he apologising for.

 

[Steve Dore]

Every time a Victorian coach complains there’s a Spanish Inquisition

 

[Garibaldi Red]

What was Mark Robinson apolgising for at the end of 360 tonight? Besides his lid, cause he really should be apologising for that monstrosity.

 

[Steve Dore]

lol, "he's a c c c can't coach"

 

[robbo1981]

Wtf is this talk of the crows getting a priority pick? Played in a gf 2 and a half yrs ago finished 11 last yr sure they are ****ed now but of own doing.

 

[Burton89onegoal]

After their 7th consecutive wooden spoon, Im happy to give them a (end of first round) priority pick then.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

That's probably the best thing Robbo's done in his entire career.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I don't really follow Basketball or Soccer, but have the those coaches and teams been implementing gameplans that take the game further away from what it was and what it looked like as pronounced as what happens in the AFL?

They have a game plan called "parking the bus", in which a team will basically go out and do everything they can to ensure neither team scores. People still turn up in droves.

Fans want it both ways though. We complain about shitty low scoring overly defensive and cautious games, but don't want the league to do anything about it, so of course teams will do that if that's what they believe will get them wins.

Do they though? They did a study recently and younger fans are fine with the how the game is now. For the record I agree with them, I can't think of a single game we've played this year that I haven't enjoyed, and most of the bad games this year from other teams didn't happen in 2019 which makes me think it's mostly just due to the quarter length. But instead of listening to the next wave of fans and letting strategies play out they just keep pandering to old people looking for member berries because those are the only people with a voice in the boy's club.

I want a new AFL CEO who basically comes in and says lets get rid of 6-6-6, get rid of the idiotic ruck nomination process, basically just roll the game back until around the time Gil came in and take it from there.