Preview 2020 AFL National Draft thread

[King Corey]

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

 

[LB2Snake]

Yes clever... happy with the 2nd pick not so much splashing cash and getting bcrouch


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Interestingly, they mentioned the other day that Jack Martin is on 2 million this year, that's how the Blues engineered that pick up in PSD.

 

[Asifhe Givashe]

Interestingly, they mentioned the other day that Jack Martin is on 2 million this year, that's how the Blues engineered that pick up in PSD.

I wish we’d be that creative...

 

[Flawed Genius]

Zane Trew = The Or False

 

[Heaps of fun]

Zane Trew = The Or False

Zane Trew = The Lies

 

[giantroo]

 

[king rising]

I’d seriously consider Logan McDonald with one of our two (likely) top 10 picks. Seems to be your typical ‘Bolter’ as such and has a very nice set shot on him. We need talls for the future, especially if we get rid of Ben Brown. We could pair him and WA teammate Zane Trew together to reduce the go home factor, although we have a very good record at retaining players from interstate regardless.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Zane Trew = The Lies

Zane Trew = The Detective

 

[LB2Snake]

Zane Trew = The Detective

Zane Trew = Romance

 

[Shermanator]

Zane Trew = Romance

Zane Trew = The SpiderBurton Twenty

SpiderBurton22

 

[Flawed Genius]

Zane Trew = The SpiderBurton Twenty

SpiderBurton22

Zane Trew = The For Trew Hundred and Twenty Trew

 

[LB2Snake]

Zane Trew = The SpiderBurton Twenty

SpiderBurton22

Zane Trew = The For Trew Hundred and Twenty Trew

Both excellent.....how could good his nickname be.

Richie ?

 

[tazaa]

Activity in this thread all of a sudden picked up fast. And not because August is upon us lol

 

[giantroo]

Activity in this thread all of a sudden picked up fast. And not because August is upon us lol

Happens every year. We start shit, draft discussion picks up then we suddenly get a few wins, finals becomes a possibility and this thread gets pushed down to page three lol.

 

[Passmore]

Happens every year. We start sh*t, draft discussion picks up then we suddenly get a few wins, finals becomes a possibility and this thread gets pushed down to page three lol.

I've got a feeling this thread isn't going anywhere this season.

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[Heaps of fun]

Happens every year. We start sh*t, draft discussion picks up then we suddenly get a few wins, finals becomes a possibility and this thread gets pushed down to page three lol.

North Melbourne - Forever Midtable.

 

[King Corey]

Anyone know what Stibbard did after building the GWS list?

Looking back he got screwed being knifed for Lewis.

Considering Nifty Nev was constantly picking late in rounds or late in drafts thanks to Uncles Denis & Dean both loving trading out early picks, geeze he had a good eye for 'impactful' players.

Look at just some of his haul:

Simpson
Harvey
Welsh
Pickett
Mooney
Rawlings
King
Petrie
Pratt
Jones
Wells
McIntosh
Hale
J.Gibson
Swallow
Goldstein
Thomas
Tarrant
Thompson
Greenwood
Grima
Adams
#Selwood (honorary selection due to him being overruled)

He flopped in 2003 but so did pretty much everyone. 2001 was the only real blot on his copybook, walked into a superdraft and left with not much.

Ageism aside, I'd like that kind of star player spotting back in our ranks.

 

[Pykie]

Anyone know what Stibbard did after building the GWS list?

Looking back he got screwed being knifed for Lewis.

Considering Nifty Nev was constantly picking late in rounds or late in drafts thanks to Uncles Denis & Dean both loving trading out early picks, geeze he had a good eye for 'impactful' players.

Look at just some of his haul:

Simpson
Harvey
Welsh
Pickett
Mooney
Rawlings
King
Petrie
Pratt
Jones
Wells
McIntosh
Hale
J.Gibson
Swallow
Goldstein
Thomas
Tarrant
Thompson
Greenwood
Grima
Adams
#Selwood (honorary selection due to him being overruled)

He flopped in 2003 but so did pretty much everyone. 2001 was the only real blot on his copybook, walked into a superdraft and left with not much.

Ageism aside, I'd like that kind of star player spotting back in our ranks.

You're being a little kind.

He bottled arguably one of the strongest draft hands of the last 20 years.

Yes he picked some great mid rounders, but that isn't the point.

We definitely win more flag's in what was a pretty gettable era in the mid 00's, with the right picks in 01,02,03

He picked some shockers in the top 10 consistently.

He got the ass, essentially for this 4 year stretch. 2000 was good in a fairly ordinary draft. But we still missed S.Burgoyne and Kerr.

2001 was an absolute killer, the amount of good players that went in the top 30, it was almost harder to do what he did than pick up some legitimate stars. Geelong nailed that draft and it set them up for the next 20 years, we pick the same players (we had better picks) we are in a similar spot probably earlier given what we also had on the list. We add Bartel, Kelly and Steve Johnson and we probably win some of the 05/06/07 flags before Hawthorn emerge.

 

[the big lebowski]

North Melbourne - Forever Midtable.

Ninth Melbourne

 

[Heaps of fun]

You're being a little kind.

He bottled arguably one of the strongest draft hands of the last 20 years.

Yes he picked some great mid rounders, but that isn't the point.

We definitely win more flag's in what was a pretty gettable era in the mid 00's, with the right picks in 01,02,03

He picked some shockers in the top 10 consistently.

He got the ass, essentially for this 4 year stretch. 2000 was good in a fairly ordinary draft. But we still missed S.Burgoyne and Kerr.

2001 was an absolute killer, the amount of good players that went in the top 30, it was almost harder to do what he did than pick up some legitimate stars. Geelong nailed that draft and it set them up for the next 20 years, we pick the same players (we had better picks) we are in a similar spot probably earlier given what we also had on the list. We add Bartel, Kelly and Steve Johnson and we probably win some of the 05/06/07 flags before Hawthorn emerge.

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2000 was "good". He picked seven 100 gamers! That's an incredible draft. Ranked by draft guru as the 16th best of all time.

 

[King Corey]

You're being a little kind.

He bottled arguably one of the strongest draft hands of the last 20 years.

Yes he picked some great mid rounders, but that isn't the point.

We definitely win more flag's in what was a pretty gettable era in the mid 00's, with the right picks in 01,02,03

He picked some shockers in the top 10 consistently.

He got the ass, essentially for this 4 year stretch. 2000 was good in a fairly ordinary draft. But we still missed S.Burgoyne and Kerr.

2001 was an absolute killer, the amount of good players that went in the top 30, it was almost harder to do what he did than pick up some legitimate stars. Geelong nailed that draft and it set them up for the next 20 years, we pick the same players (we had better picks) we are in a similar spot probably earlier given what we also had on the list. We add Bartel, Kelly and Steve Johnson and we probably win some of the 05/06/07 flags before Hawthorn emerge.

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He blitzed 2000 even allowing for Dylan Smith. Daniel Motlop was very much top 10 on talent, he couldn't factor in the erratic mindset that far out.

He shanked 2001, no argument. Still nailed David Hale though who proved to be a very worthy top 10 talent in the end.

2002 was hardly a fail. Wells, McIntosh, Firrito (rookie)? I think that's a very solid result. Who did convincingly better that year?

2003 everyone drafted across the league was a dud bar about 3 players.

2004-5 he was picking from way back yet still walked out with JWS, Swallow, McMahon, Josh Gibson, Pratt (redraft).

2006-7 he did well and even better had he been allowed to take Joel.

He picked some shockers in the top 10 consistently.

??

In 15+ years he got to select in the top 10 4x times for a total of 6x picks.

Smith - MISS
Motlop - HIT - 130 games
Hale - HIT - 237 games
Wells - HIT - 257 games
McIntosh - HIT - 126 games
Trotter - MISS (but check the rest of the top 10 & first round)

Myth - busted.

That's before considering how many high quality players he picked in other rounds, again, under 2 coaches who didn't exact value going to the draft.

 

[Pykie]

He blitzed 2000 even allowing for Dylan Smith. Daniel Motlop was very much top 10 on talent, he couldn't factor in the erratic mindset that far out.

He shanked 2001, no argument. Still nailed David Hale though who proved to be a very worthy top 10 talent in the end.

2002 was hardly a fail. Wells, McIntosh, Firrito (rookie)? I think that's a very solid result. Who did convincingly better that year?

2003 everyone drafted across the league was a dud bar about 3 players.

2004-5 he was picking from way back yet still walked out with JWS, Swallow, McMahon, Josh Gibson, Pratt (redraft).

2006-7 he did well and even better had he been allowed to take Joel.



??

In 15+ years he got to select in the top 10 4x times for a total of 6x picks.

Smith - MISS
Motlop - HIT - 130 games
Hale - HIT - 237 games
Wells - HIT - 257 games
McIntosh - HIT - 126 games
Trotter - MISS (but check the rest of the top 10 & first round)

Myth - busted.

That's before considering how many high quality players he picked in other rounds, again, under 2 coaches who didn't exact value going to the draft.

The best player of that entire group was Wells and in reality Daniel wouldn't be close to making our TOTC.

I guess you have to weigh up what your definition of a hit is? If you are purely ranking them by games played, that's a fairly low bar for a team that's been as mediocre as we have for 20 years and the amount of games played bt some very ordinary players for this club recently.


I don't consider Hale a worthy top 10 in 2001 when it produced 3 x premiership captains, 7 Brownlows from 5 x different players, 6 different Norm Smith medalists and 16 different AA players.

Hale was a 200+ game role player. Nothing more.


Not a single one of those North players listed finished top 10 in the Brownlow, and there's what, 1 AA gurney for Petrie between them? More if you want to count Gibsons when he was at Hawthorn...


Someone like Petrie or Goldstein, for where they were picked - Definite hit.

McIntosh? No way.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Souup]

Key forward Logan McDonald will rise significantly after his performing tonight for Perth. 14 touches and 3 goals playing WAFL Seniors adding to his already impressive start to the season.

Not sure we need a key forward but I"m a 'pick best available and trade for needs' type of guy. I still have Thilthorpe, Phillips, JUH, Hollands before him but he may potentially fall in the Melbourne pick range. If he keeps up this form he'll be considered top 5 by season's end.

 

[king rising]

Special performance from Logan McDonald for Perth today. Rocketed into our first pick contention. I’ve watched the last half of this game, he’s outstanding

 

[LB2Snake]

Special performance from Logan McDonald for Perth today. Rocketed into our first pick contention. I’ve watched the last half of this game, he’s outstanding

What sort of player is he? I thought he was a KPF