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Which players were in your bests against the Eagles today?


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I kind of got Teague’s predicament with TDK and Pitto today though. Our plan was to play TDK forward and have Pitto ruck the majority of the game, managing TDK’s minutes. TDK then spends a good 45 minutes doing well as first ruck and that makes Pitto redundant. It’s not as though we can play him forward.
Why can't he rest forward? Appreciate he's not known for it, but having a tall unit down there to compete/get it to ground and make their defenders accountable wouldn't hurt?
 

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Despite the loss, I’m very happy with the game today, I thought we played quite well, even down an important player and missing Harry we took it up to a very good side. The Eagles got on the good side of a few umpiring calls in the 3rd and they took advantage of their momentum, they are a very good side and we showed we can match it with them.

It was great to get some new faces in the side, Fish was great in the first half, it was great to see a first gamer in the side and TDK was great, he’s still got a lot of filling out to do, he put himself in to good positions but just failed to convert on some of his good work.

Kennedys marking was a positive and I was surprised that he only had 13 touches, I thought he was strong for 2-3 quarters, I thought Jones was really good today as well.

Our pressure in the 3rd quarter was fantastic, we were really pushing the Eagles but just couldn’t capitalise and get that next goal.

After our poor performance against the Hawks, I was proud of the effort and execution today, I hope it continues on to the next match and I hope we get one or two players back from injury,
 
I don't agree.

Pitto plays relatively well as part of transition, and he plays very well as a kick behind. Think of him as a poor man's McEvoy; he's going to help you structurally, and if given enough time he's going to plonk himself directly in the hole behind the ball. He's also - when not actively against a bloke who makes an awful lot of rather competent people look very, very silly - quite a decent ruck, not by hitout amount but by hitouts to advantage, which is a huge difference for us.

Can we do better? Probably. I'd be having TDK in, and rotating him, Cas and Pitto around to fu** with our opponents structurally, but make no mistake Pitto is perfectly fine as an AFL player. He's only exploitable because our midfield is still undermanned and somewhat undersized.

Then we agree to disagree. Positionally, Pitto is lost unless he is a Ruck. Doesn't have the skill or agility to play KP backline and has no significant forward craft to hold down a post for a sustained period of time. He has decent skill around the ground to link with smalls, whilst battering away as a ruckman or playing behind the ball.

This structure would go back to the too tall Blues of a handfull of years ago. TDK has much more versatility, I think it's time to learn on the job.

Opportunities become more limited as H, MM, Charlie et al become available.
 
Why can't he rest forward? Appreciate he's not known for it, but having a tall unit down there to compete/get it to ground and make their defenders accountable wouldn't hurt?

It’s just not really his go. He’s a competitive ruckman who can at best break even at the stoppages, but his lack of athleticism and reasonably average hands mean he’s unlikely to ever be useful up forward - even resting there. The way we play relies on our forwards to be good on-one-on, which all of Curnow, McKay, McGovern and Casboult are, but Pittonet has never showed much of a capacity for it.

Plus in the second half of the game we were just mindlessly bombing it forward, which wasn’t favouring anyone. If we needed a Hail Mary grab however I’d be far more confident in TDK executing, which he almost did on a couple of occasions.
 
I agree. This has been the case for years. We have been focussed on recruiting nice guys and haven’t put out a team which can intimidate the opposition with a ferocious attack on the ball let alone defending our own, since our halcyon days back in the 90’s. For years other teams have pushed us around and we don’t seem to react or defend our own. Look at the teams who have built premiership dynasties, Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn and now Premiershipmond, they have all been tough no nonsense teams which were bigger and stronger that the rest of the league and no one pushed them over without repercussions.
Would be great to recruit some bruisers.


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It’s just not really his go. He’s a competitive ruckman who can at best break even at the stoppages, but his lack of athleticism and reasonably average hands mean he’s unlikely to ever be useful up forward - even resting there. The way we play relies on our forwards to be good on-one-on, which all of Curnow, McKay, McGovern and Casboult are, but Pittonet has never showed much of a capacity for it.

Plus in the second half of the game we were just mindlessly bombing it forward, which wasn’t favouring anyone. If we needed a Hail Mary grab however I’d be far more confident in TDK executing, which he almost did on a couple of occasions.
Appreciate all of that. My response was more in reference to who we had out there today. In a perfect scenario we'd have all those players you mentioned, but we didn't and don't at the moment, so it was mainly having Pitt resting forward to give TDK or Casboult a turn in the ruck.
 
Touched on where we lost the game and or where we could have won it

On WC, they are a strong, well balanced unit. Their list management/drafting/trading has always been elite

Always invest and nurture talls, McGovern, Barrass, NicNat, Allen and more to come through, Brander, Edwards and Williams will be a jet

Easier to fill wholes in the middle and fringes by trading, Jetta ( courtesy of another tall in Sinclair), Yeo, Redden, Kelly

Impressive
 
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And way too much lip it’s doing him no favours
I understand what you mean; he does mouth off a-bit out there. But I like that about him. It shows he's got inner mongrel he needs to get out. Besides, the umpiring has have been shithouse.
 

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I wish we had a designated sniper to halt and cause changes in momentum.
 
Appreciate all of that. My response was more in reference to who we had out there today. In a perfect scenario we'd have all those players you mentioned, but we didn't and don't at the moment, so it was mainly having Pitt resting forward to give TDK or Casboult a turn in the ruck.

It’s a hard one to manage on the fly. I guess Teague wanted to stick to his guns and underestimated the impact TDK was having during our brief period of dominance.

Playing Pitto forward kind of takes him out of the game and perhaps Teague was also worried about stretching TDK too much in his first game back. It’d be physically exhausting coming up against Natanui for even 30 minutes given how dominant he is at stoppages and how much pressure he brings on the follow up.
 

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