Hawthorn’s decline
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The master tanker finally being able to dust off the old playbook from the 00's.
Attempted to try and avoid being s**t it didn't work now we are s**t.
I can live with it
Will still flog Carlton 
Rolled over pretty easily for a club that’s had a culture as ruthless as yours
I mean we went hard and that is why we are where we are now.
We gave up a ton to try and remain competitive and steal a flag. It has obviously failed but i can live with it as long as they now acknowledge the failure and look to rebuild.
I'm jealous for the chance, back to back is a start, I'd take that.
- May 5, 2006
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Brisbane's decline was natural. They played pretty much exclusively kids from 2005 until they traded in Travis Johnstone in 2008. Their list of players 28/29 to 30+ in 2005 was pretty bloody good, similar to Hawthorn after 2015/16. Difference being that they didn't try and top up the the remnants of the 2001-2004 side by mortgaging the future.
The Lions' real undoing was 2009 after they had started to build a decent core of young players and went all in on Fevola and Brown as a duo. Gave up Henderson and a first round pick and gave Daniel Bradshaw the shits for a handful of games from the big Fev.
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- Oct 3, 2006
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All of Mitchell, Wingard and O’Meara have been solid but in hindsight they were in the wrong age bracket, as were Patton and Scully.
They’re going to have Stratton, Burgoyne, Puopolo, McEvoy, Henderson, Frawley etc retire before much longer and the above will be late 20s then.
If they’d kept the picks and list spots they’d be a lot further along. Time for a course correct. If clubs will trade anything respectable for any of their oldies, take it and get some youth in.
They’re going to have Stratton, Burgoyne, Puopolo, McEvoy, Henderson, Frawley etc retire before much longer and the above will be late 20s then.
If they’d kept the picks and list spots they’d be a lot further along. Time for a course correct. If clubs will trade anything respectable for any of their oldies, take it and get some youth in.
At least after the long rebuild, the players will have driving to Dingley every day to look forward to.
Voss got the worst deal ever in Fevola, the guy is a worthless tosser, the urinator. Has any trade offered so much upside & delivered so little on & off field.
It was worth a punt. The guy was unfortunately stuffed by gambling and booze by the time he got there, but undoubtedly an amazing player.
On a good day, never in Brisbane. Not a fan.
- Apr 11, 2012
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Of our over 25’s the only two that would get a first round pick in a trade would be Mitchell and Sicily...neither worth a top 10.
Gunston and Breust a mid to late second round for a team in a premiership window.
Omera and Wingard with how they have played since coming to us would be lucky to get a late second or early third. Other than the Gibbs trade, those two trades will go down as two of the worst we have seen in recent times.
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Defied gravity by trading in mature players but paid too much. The age profile has become too skewed in the process. The absolute worse thing a club can do is to misjudge where their list is really at. Hawthorn has badly misjudged, the O'Meara and Wingard trades are haunting them.
Don't see too much class in their younger players, certainly not enough to cover retirees, Master Coach losing his shine, no longer a destination club for FA, this will be long and painful I reckon.
Which list is in most trouble, North, Crows, Hawks? Consider their draft capital this year as well. Hawks may just be the worst which is saying something.
Don't see too much class in their younger players, certainly not enough to cover retirees, Master Coach losing his shine, no longer a destination club for FA, this will be long and painful I reckon.
Which list is in most trouble, North, Crows, Hawks? Consider their draft capital this year as well. Hawks may just be the worst which is saying something.
Wonder how omeara feels?, left the rabble and continuous bottom 4 finishes at the GC to go to the “destination “ club and supposed top 4 finishes promised to him by the hawks hierarchy.
Won’t see another finals before he retires .
Should of stayed atGC
Won’t see another finals before he retires .
Should of stayed atGC
