Preview 2020 AFL National Draft thread

[King Corey]

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

 

[7577969923]

Ugh. My maths. In my brain that was 1350. But agree that just scraping past their points value is unlikely to be enough.

As a principle wouldn't the Bulldogs or another club in the same position take the view that swapping their pick simply for the points value down the draft is not worth doing? They may as well take JUH with their first-round pick. Am I missing something?

 

[LoBu]

Yeah.. You're not getting band 1 tho.

Fair call, he's not worth pick 2, but if the comp system gives it, well that's what Crows fans are excited by.

 

[LoBu]

Gerard's view sounds about right to me. Just because he is currently on $650k doesn't mean he is worth that.

I think worth that for the way he plays, but injury concerns really lower his price on the free market.

 

[Psicosis]

Fair call, he's not worth pick 2, but if the comp system gives it, well that's what Crows fans are excited by.

It is pure delusion to think that Crouch is going to attract offers that would justify the comp system to provide Band 1.

 

[7577969923]

I think worth that for the way he plays, but injury concerns really lower his price on the free market.

Yep, just checked and he has played 94 of a potential of circa 135 in his time at the Crows and most of his missed games have been soft tissue I think. So there would definitely be a durability question mark discount.

 

[Tas]

The kid is truly exciting, but I am not convinced he'll end up the best player from the draft.

The best looking kid at 18 rarely becomes the best player of that draft. That being said, if you are considered one of the best of your age group then you have a high probability of being a good player.

 

[LoBu]

Yep, just checked and he has played 94 of a potential of circa 135 in his time at the Crows and most of his missed games have been soft tissue I think. So there would definitely be a durability question mark discount.

Missed a year with a broken leg, and missed a year for a groin injury. The other years are mostly hammy, so yep.

 

[kool kangas]

Unfortunately for Jackson, he’s a Melbourne supporter… and they’re all over him like a cheap suit! In fact his whole family are paid up Melbourne members


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Another reason why we should get him...........

 

[7577969923]

Missed a year with a broken leg, and missed a year for a groin injury. The other years are mostly hammy, so yep.

I suspect someone will bite at the high end of Gerard's range - 4 x 600 or thereabouts. Probably enough to get an end of first-round pick, remembering that Buddy delivered an end of first-round for 9 x $1m.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Sorry to intrude but I think it's worth adding that Crouch is currently on $650k to $700k, so 'valuing him at $500k' is unlikely, and second that Gerard Whately is a massive Geelong fan, and who are looking to pick him up? Geelong, Essendon, Sydney. It's just a game being played out in the media, and unfortunately not as transparent and even-toned an article as it first appears.

Perhaps the truth is somewhere between Adelaide and Geelongs' perspective?

I reckon Crouch would be prepared to shave price for length of contract.

 

[LB2Snake]

I suspect someone will bite at the high end of Gerard's range - 4 x 600 or thereabouts. Probably enough to get an end of first-round pick, remembering that Buddy delivered an end of first-round for 9 x $1m.

Didn't the hawks win the flag that year....so it was pick 19?
I can't remember, but that's what i thought happened

 

[Heaps of fun]

I reckon he'll go to the Cats on an economical wage.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yep, and not one them reckoned Phillips played better than Rowell.

It would appear to be the case as far as their underage years went.

Are you sure you interpreted the correct context?

 

[Groucho]

Didn't the hawks win the flag that year....so it was pick 19?
I can't remember, but that's what i thought happened

Yeah Buddy did attract band 1 but they had won the flag so pick 19

 

[Asifhe Givashe]

Yes I’m pretty sure a 9 year, $10m contract attracted a band 1 compo.

James Frawley deal is the one to be afraid of.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

No FA compo should have any effect on the first round of picks.

 

[Nutjob]

I suspect someone will bite at the high end of Gerard's range - 4 x 600 or thereabouts. Probably enough to get an end of first-round pick, remembering that Buddy delivered an end of first-round for 9 x $1m.

Buddy was band 1, but hawks finished on top.

This is the exact reason why this system is so flawed. The pick should be based on the player, not team ladder position.


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[Asifhe Givashe]

Even if they were to get 2 picks, can see them taking Thilthorpe and McDonald anyway.

 

[Passmore]

Even if they were to get 2 picks, can see them taking Thilthorpe and McDonald anyway.

They might take the Scully and Trengove equivalents and leave us with Martin.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Despite the carry on that is taking place on the Adelaide board around getting a band 1 compensation pick for Crouch - SEN calling a spade a spade. It's not happening.

Brad Crouch's value and why he's not a "rolled-gold" free agent

What is he worth?

www.sen.com.au

I agree with Gerald's take, but clubs make stupid offers when it comes to getting talent in for free

 

[New_Roo]

Yeah.. You're not getting band 1 tho.

Isn't it also important to note that just because he is being paid 650k-700k now isn't that the reason you want to get rid of him as you know he ain't worth that


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[Nutjob]

Isn't it also important to note that just because he is being paid 650k-700k now isn't that the reason you want to get rid of him as you know he ain't worth that


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Good luck to anyone paying someone that after 90 games in 8 years.


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[Ether]

As a principle wouldn't the Bulldogs or another club in the same position take the view that swapping their pick simply for the points value down the draft is not worth doing? They may as well take JUH with their first-round pick. Am I missing something?

There's no point swapping them for an equivalent from the Dogs' perspective. They could try to increase their number of points. If I'm not mistaken they can't just grab him with their R1 pick. They need to stump up 2400 points if he's bid on at pick 1 so they may go into deficit for the following year if they finish high enough / don't have enough points.

 

[Ether]

Good luck to anyone paying someone that after 90 games in 8 years.


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I wonder how the compensation works if a club offers him performance incentives.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

I wonder how the compensation works if a club offers him performance incentives.

I think compo only takes into account guaranteed $$$$