Autopsy Jesse Hogan - Worth 220 Points

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But only if Hogan agrees. What is the evidence that he is willing to take a pay cut?
I don’t think it’s a pay cut. I reckon he is on at best $1.5M for three years. If he got a four year deal on $2M he would take it because he know he’s not guaranteed an extension past 2021 at Freo. Especially if he has a few benders over the summer. Remember he missed trainIng And was suspended earlier this year? The guy ain’t Andrew Brayshaw doing 100 x 100 sprints on Christmas Day.

Can I say for the record I am a big Hogan fan , he’s a competitor and natural footballer with one of the best kicks I’ve seen.

Just reckon he needs a bit more help offfield like tigers did for Martin , otherwise too much money and lack of motivation could result in him missing the opportunity presented at Freo
 

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I don’t think it’s a pay cut. I reckon he is on at best $1.5M for three years. If he got a four year deal on $2M he would take it because he know he’s not guaranteed an extension past 2021 at Freo. Especially if he has a few benders over the summer. Remember he missed trainIng And was suspended earlier this year? The guy ain’t Andrew Brayshaw doing 100 x 100 sprints on Christmas Day.
Of course he's no off field angel. That's why he won't get the same money elsewhere that he gets here.

Do you really think he is on $500k? After all he was on $900k a year at the Dee's. He asked for $1million a year from us before we said no.

Do you really we low-balled him to the extent that he only got half what he asked for?

He was still contracted to the Dees so he could have stayed and got his $900,000. Why would he quit that for $500,000?

How could we justify giving up #6 and #21 and then only offer him $500k, when we gave up #11 for Lobb who we pay $700k.

He would have been better off staying at the Dee's and getting nearly two years worth of salary to sit on their injury list for a year.
 

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I thought he wanted 8 at 700 to 800k then he got cut to 600k for 3

None of us BigFooty types really know of course, but here is the kind of stuff I remembered from the time.


 

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Pretty sure 3 years @ 800K was what was reported at the time. What we don't know is if that was the base or if it was really 700 plus match payments (i.e 800 if you play all year).
I heard he was on a lower Base pay around 550k plus match payment bonus. I don’t think he could earn more than 700k all up and that was when he played a full season.
 

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Not sure how many noticed but in the North game, I'm pretty sure JL was trialling out the lone forward in the goal square (1v1) more often, rotating Tabs and Hogan down there. Very similar to what the Eagles do, making all the other forwards push up to the 50 to allow space.
Hogan and Tabs very crucial to our structure and playing style going forward, both can park in 50 and both can get outside the 50 and up the ground. Lobb perfect as a forward/ruck while Darcy's graph points up.
 
If the ball moves easily from defense to attack without using the extra tall then it's much better for us. Defending against Freo's ball movement should really focus on forcing the marks up the ground to draw the talls away from the forward fifty.

Man on man coverage from the dogs coming up
 

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Not sure how many noticed but in the North game, I'm pretty sure JL was trialling out the lone forward in the goal square (1v1) more often, rotating Tabs and Hogan down there. Very similar to what the Eagles do, making all the other forwards push up to the 50 to allow space.
Hogan and Tabs very crucial to our structure and playing style going forward, both can park in 50 and both can get outside the 50 and up the ground. Lobb perfect as a forward/ruck while Darcy's graph points up.
I’m pretty sure l can dig up posts of mine every year for the past 5 years saying we should do this. Next thing the boys need to do is learn how to legally crunch the defenders (McGovern) that fill in the hole in front for the defensive mark. Or kick long to the square to take the interceptor out of the game and bring the smalls into the game.
 

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I’m pretty sure l can dig up posts of mine every year for the past 5 years saying we should do this. Next thing the boys need to do is learn how to legally crunch the defenders (McGovern) that fill in the hole in front for the defensive mark. Or kick long to the square to take the interceptor out of the game and bring the smalls into the game.
Agreed on the Crunch, they just need to watch the Tigers. They do it every time and I don't even think they care about the frees they give away either, they play the long game.
 

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Agreed on the Crunch, they just need to watch the Tigers. They do it every time and I don't even think they care about the frees they give away either, they play the long game.
Just pretend your going for a speccy Natanui style. Stick your knees into their back, puncture lungs, break ribs..... play on.
 
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Also, just watched the JL and Barich interview. People love listening to the media, literally nothing wrong with what JL said. Body language and the love JL has given to Hogan post game......sometimes commonsense goes a long way. Hogan is staying.



What would we get for Jesse, pick 25? If he's a disruptive member of the playing group you'd contemplate that but that hasn't been suggested so why would you trade a match winner coming into his prime for a mid-range pick?
 
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Of course he's no off field angel. That's why he won't get the same money elsewhere that he gets here.

Do you really think he is on $500k? After all he was on $900k a year at the Dee's. He asked for $1million a year from us before we said no.

Do you really we low-balled him to the extent that he only got half what he asked for?

He was still contracted to the Dees so he could have stayed and got his $900,000. Why would he quit that for $500,000?

How could we justify giving up #6 and #21 and then only offer him $500k, when we gave up #11 for Lobb who we pay $700k.

He would have been better off staying at the Dee's and getting nearly two years worth of salary to sit on their injury list for a year.


The Demons would have said we can't guarantee you a game so you may spend time in the VFL to push him out the door.

Our offer was largely performance based. Probably around $500,000 base then incentives triggered by matches played and finishing top 5 in the Doig.
 

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Y'all need to re-watch his highlight reel Pre-Freo again



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I don't think anyone doubts his potential. It's about whether he is still capable of being that player.
 
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