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We Await Silent Tristero's Empire
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I think he's asking for Haw 1st Rounder. Very unlikely, too skewed in our favour.Your dream scenario includes trading out our 2021 1st rounder?
That's not a dream it's a nightmare...
A small part of me would be extremely curious to see a team in Adelaide's position pull zero punches and make a complete mockery of the AFL FA and its wildly uneven NGA system's.Agree the AFC is a conservative Club almost guaranteed most of the pick swaps wont happen. Our neighbours would do it though.
I still see us bidding on JUH though.
It's...brave! Whilst obviously there are some elements we could pick apart - Port probably don't match pick 3 or what if North pick Thilthorpe etc...? BUT, I really do like the thinking. This is what we should be looking to do. We would be maximising our draft hand in both this years draft and in next years. A lot of Crows fans would probably have a melt down and not understand it, but it would be good business.A small part of me would be extremely curious to see a team in Adelaide's position pull zero punches and make a complete mockery of the AFL FA and its wildly uneven NGA system.
For Example;
Pick 1: Adelaide Bids on JUH: Dogs Match: Wipes out Dog's from the rest of the draft (+ 2021 draft deficit?)
Pick 2: Adelaide Bids on Braeden Campbell: Swans Match: Wipes out Sydney from rest of draft
Pick 3: Adelaide Bids on Lachlan Jones: Port Matches: Wipes out Port from rest of draft (+ 2021 draft deficit?)
Pick 4: Adelaide trades pick 4 and Atkins compo to Hawthorn for Pick 7 and 2021 1st rounder: Hawthorn Select Logan McDonald
Pick 5: Adelaide Select Elijah Hollands with Brad Crouch Compo Pick
Pick 6: North Melbourne Select Will Phillips
Pick 7: Adelaide trade pick 7 and WB 2nd rounder to GCS for Pick 9 and 2021 1st Round pick: GCS Select DGB
Pick 8: SYD selection Wiped Out: Essendon Select Tanner Bruhn
Pick 9: Adelaide Select Riley Thilthorpe
Don't take the trades as gospel, its just to highlight what theoretically could be done if we set our mind to screwing over the AFL and teams around us this year and next.
Pretty sure the AFL would kick us out of the league if we dared pull a stunt like that. But hey, there's nothing in the rulebook that says we couldn't right?
You could be right though, might be too expensive for a club rebuilding. Sydney may be a better fit.
Oh yeah, it would be super easy to pull apart, but it’s really just a reflection of the killer mindset we have the opportunity to go into this draft with.It's...brave! Whilst obviously there are some elements we could pick apart - Port probably don't match pick 3 or what if North pick Thilthorpe etc...? BUT, I really do like the thinking. This is what we should be looking to do. We would be maximising our draft hand in both this years draft and in next years. A lot of Crows fans would probably have a melt down and not understand it, but it would be good business.
Liked for undertakeI'm pretty sure someone said if we lose by 1 point they would need to lose by 80+ to undertake us
Agree the AFC is a conservative Club almost guaranteed most of the pick swaps wont happen. Our neighbours would do it though.
I still see us bidding on JUH though.
Was wondering if someone was gonna pick that upLiked for undertake
Depends how much we lose by. We will likely finish around 65.5% (843 for, 1286 against) with a 80 to 50 scoreline resulting in a 30 point loss which is a likely score based off both teams averages. For North to get below 65.5% they will need to lose by a considerable margin. Really comes down to how much they score. If they try they will likely score anywhere from 30-45 points for the match based off their previous matches. They currently sit at 824 points for. Let's say they score 40. That would put them on 864. Therefore the magic number would be 1318 against to hit 65.5%. They currently sit at 1156 against. Therefore they would need 162 kicked against them resulting in a 122point loss if they scored 40. A very unlikely result and on the national stage I doubt they would go down this path. If they do they would be investigated and lose the pick most likely anyway. So to answer your question they would need to lose by roughly 120. The thing working in our favour is the shortened quarters and it's a night game at Gold coast which always has a lot of dew resulting in lower scores due to fumbles. If it was a day game we may be in trouble.
A small part of me would be extremely curious to see a team in Adelaide's position pull zero punches and make a complete mockery of the AFL FA and its wildly uneven NGA system.
For Example;
Pick 1: Adelaide Bids on JUH: Dogs Match: Wipes out Dog's from the rest of the draft (+ 2021 draft deficit?)
Pick 2: Adelaide Bids on Braeden Campbell: Swans Match: Wipes out Sydney from rest of draft
Pick 3: Adelaide Bids on Lachlan Jones: Port Matches: Wipes out Port from rest of draft (+ 2021 draft deficit?)
Pick 4: Adelaide trades pick 4 and Atkins compo to Hawthorn for Pick 7 and 2021 1st rounder: Hawthorn Select Logan McDonald
Pick 5: Adelaide Select Elijah Hollands with Brad Crouch Compo Pick
Pick 6: North Melbourne Select Will Phillips
Pick 7: Adelaide trade pick 7 and WB 2nd rounder to GCS for Pick 9 and 2021 1st Round pick: GCS Select DGB
Pick 8: SYD selection Wiped Out: Essendon Select Tanner Bruhn
Pick 9: Adelaide Select Riley Thilthorpe
Don't take the trades as gospel, its just to highlight what theoretically could be done if we set our mind to screwing over the AFL and teams around us this year and next.
Pretty sure the AFL would kick us out of the league if we dared pull a stunt like that. But hey, there's nothing in the rulebook that says we couldn't right?
So in this situation we end up with Pick 5, Pick 9, and ours, Hawks, and Suns first round pick next year?As long as the player they select is at par or better than the current player in the draft.
Then yes. F**k them, F**k all of them.
where do we signSo in this situation we end up with Pick 5, Pick 9, and ours, Hawks, and Suns first round pick next year?
Oh yeah, it would be super easy to pull apart, but it’s really just a reflection of the killer mindset we have the opportunity to go into this draft with.
No team in history has ever been able to make a play like that. We potentially do!
EDIT: Imagine being on the clock 7 times in the first 9 picks. And still have another pick coming
That 69 point win over us earlier in the season may be the reason why they end up missing pick 1.Depends how much we lose by. We will likely finish around 65.5% (843 for, 1286 against) with a 80 to 50 scoreline resulting in a 30 point loss which is a likely score based off both teams averages. For North to get below 65.5% they will need to lose by a considerable margin. Really comes down to how much they score. If they try they will likely score anywhere from 30-45 points for the match based off their previous matches. They currently sit at 824 points for. Let's say they score 40. That would put them on 864. Therefore the magic number would be 1318 against to hit 65.5%. They currently sit at 1156 against. Therefore they would need 162 kicked against them resulting in a 122point loss if they scored 40. A very unlikely result and on the national stage I doubt they would go down this path. If they do they would be investigated and lose the pick most likely anyway. So to answer your question they would need to lose by roughly 120. The thing working in our favour is the shortened quarters and it's a night game at Gold coast which always has a lot of dew resulting in lower scores due to fumbles. If it was a day game we may be in trouble.
Agree the AFC is a conservative Club almost guaranteed most of the pick swaps wont happen. Our neighbours would do it though.
I still see us bidding on JUH though.
Yeah more or less.So in this situation we end up with Pick 5, Pick 9, and ours, Hawks, and Suns first round pick next year?
Agree the AFC is a conservative Club almost guaranteed most of the pick swaps wont happen. Our neighbours would do it though.
I still see us bidding on JUH though.
I know peoplle think clubs draft for needs and they certainly do, but not generally with their 1st round picks, in almost all cases they'll go best available irrespective of the position they play....all well and good if the player they rate top of their list is a specific need but it's certainly not usually the defining reason.You reckon? I've always thought the AFC have been one of the more adventurous teams at the trade table, particularly since the trading of future picks came into play.
My gut feeling so far is that we'll bid JUH at pick 1 and keep WB honest (i know there's no history for clubs doing that, but i also don't think there's been history of the best player in the draft being NGA/FS under the new rules). They don't have any currency to move ahead of a bid, so they'll likely trade their 1st rd out ahead of the draft anyway, so if we rate him at Pick 1 we should just bid on him.
There's simply too many scenarios to play out beyond pick 1 until we know whether we get brad crouch/atkins comp etc etc. Will be keen to take a closer look at any analysis on every clubs draft needs in the top 10/20
As long as the player they select is at par or better than the current player in the draft.
Then yes. F**k them, F**k all of them.
agree it’s the more likely your scenario my only worry is when are we going to have pick 2 again? i’m more bullish on next year than the melbourne media and expect a strongish return next year (not finals but 8 - 10 wins at least out of 22). we will end up with pick 9 or something that will never dislodge rankine. luko i would love too but he can wait.Trading in players, while a solid option for the crows midfield (later picks for Hately et al), is not relevant when they are in contract in year 2 of a 4 year rebuild. Rankine and Luko signed contracts until the end of 2021, I'd be open to trading a future (2022 first) when they are out of contract, but we need to draft this year and next.
I just wish people would get this unhealthy infatuation with Izak Rankine out of their heads....at no stage has he even given a slither of evidence that he's unhappy at the GCS, in fact it's completely the opposite in reality.agree it’s the more likely your scenario my only worry is when are we going to have pick 2 again? i’m more bullish on next year than the melbourne media and expect a strongish return next year (not finals but 8 - 10 wins at least out of 22). we will end up with pick 9 or something that will never dislodge rankine. luko i would love too but he can wait.
I know peoplle think clubs draft for needs and they certainly do, but not generally with their 1st round picks, in almost all cases they'll go best available irrespective of the position they play....all well and good if the player they rate top of their list is a specific need but it's certainly not usually the defining reason.