Was Ian Collins really wrong for citing Chris Grant and his strike on Nick Holland in 97 ?

[Elmer_Judd]

So sick of Bulldogs fans/players and indeed Chris Grant himself complaning about being hard done by. It's easy to say in hindsight, but the slow motion footage clearly shows that Grant hit the man, not the ball.

The fact the original tribunal panel (at that time) let that incident fly (possibly because C.Grant was regarded as a major Brownlow fancy at the time ) was disgraceful, and I cannot fault Ian Collins for appealing the decision), the Chas Brownlow medal is (and should forever should be) awarded for the Fairest and Best Player in the league.

Personally I have always felt Corey McKernan was screwed out of a Brownlow far more on 1996 for a non illegible offence anymore.

The ongoing bitterness of Chris Grant and refusal to accept responsibility over what he did has always sadly diminished me in the eyes of a neutral supporter who always thought he is a bona champion of the game.

 

[Breretonisahood]

...... and in other breaking news 1997 was to be the last season of Frontline...

 

[Bulldog1954]

Has Chris Grant, another player or anyone associated with the club recently said something about this? Am I missing something?

 

[Damon_3388]

OP just got Kayo, and is going through old Open Mike episodes.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Did a thread from 1999 not get through for 21 years or something?

 

[BF Tiger]

Need to compare it to other contemporary tribunal decisions. I remember at the time i thought it was a pretty soft suspension.

 

[CarnTheScray]

This feels like a bay post, knowing you are one to hate the doggies Elmer.

 

[ThatsjustDappa]

Soft for 1997....

 

[Pessimistic]

So sick of Bulldogs fans/players and indeed Chris Grant himself complaning about being hard done by. It's easy to say in hindsight, but the slow motion footage clearly shows that Grant hit the man, not the ball.

The fact the original tribunal panel (at that time) let that incident fly (possibly because C.Grant was regarded as a major Brownlow fancy at the time ) was disgraceful, and I cannot fault Ian Collins for appealing the decision), the Chas Brownlow medal is (and should forever should be) awarded for the Fairest and Best Player in the league.

Personally I have always felt Corey McKernan was screwed out of a Brownlow far more on 1996 for a non illegible offence anymore.

The ongoing bitterness of Chris Grant and refusal to accept responsibility over what he did has always sadly diminished me in the eyes of a neutral supporter who always thought he is a bona champion of the game.

‘was at that game. Spiteful, but the grant incident would have been something like 6th worst

 

[Elmer_Judd]

This feels like a bay post, knowing you are one to hate the doggies Elmer.

Not really. I was delighted and crying when you guys won the 2016 and the historical significance it was, however i have always been bothered by the 97 Brownlow count and the perception Chris Grant was robbed of the Charlie, when viewing the available footage, he got his rightful penalty.

 

[nickcat0]

It's 23 years ago .................. Does it matter any longer?

 

[Franc de Borges]

Was Ian Collins ever right?

 

[BallaratBulldog]

I mean it's unusual for the tribunal to clear someone only for someone external to keep hunting the player for suspension.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Ian.Collins is one of the games greatest ever c..nts

 

[PhatBoy]

Reading the OP I’d have thought this has something Grant has bought up more often than Shane Warne ragging on Steve Waugh.

but if it’s based on his Open Mike interview, what is he supposed to do, not answer the question?

 

[Upgrayedd]

Maybe Chris Grant shouldnt of pissed off the AFL director by deciding to be loyal, he wouldnt of copped the spiteful wrath of a poor football admin

 

[PowerForGood]

...... and in other breaking news 1997 was to be the last season of Frontline...

But now we have Utopia.

 

[PowerForGood]

SANFL (back when it was VFL too)
1984 Glenelg finishes third. Peter Carey is suspended for attempted striking and misses the Preliminary Final.

 

[Niggles]

A bit of the path but more so another example of AFL tribunal incompetence. What about that incident last year when Dusty copped a 2 week ban over an elbow to GWS' Adam Kennedy, for what that incompetent Cristian called 'the potential to cause injury'. What a load of s**t and it was rightfully downgraded to 1 week, but that 'potential' crap was just that. A made up rule that has never been mentioned in any case before or since. Michael Cristian should be rightfully unemployed next year. Who pulls his strings. That other incompetent fool Hocking? Such a joke of a position. What was Ian Collins position at the time of Grants issue? Was it more like the Bachar Houli crackdown after he got let off far too lightly initially until someone??? appealed

 

[Altum Volantes]

Nah, it was there.

Funny though, he was probably the cleanest player it that team of scraggers.

 

[Seeds]

So sick of Bulldogs fans/players and indeed Chris Grant himself complaning about being hard done by. It's easy to say in hindsight, but the slow motion footage clearly shows that Grant hit the man, not the ball.

The fact the original tribunal panel (at that time) let that incident fly (possibly because C.Grant was regarded as a major Brownlow fancy at the time ) was disgraceful, and I cannot fault Ian Collins for appealing the decision), the Chas Brownlow medal is (and should forever should be) awarded for the Fairest and Best Player in the league.

Personally I have always felt Corey McKernan was screwed out of a Brownlow far more on 1996 for a non illegible offence anymore.

The ongoing bitterness of Chris Grant and refusal to accept responsibility over what he did has always sadly diminished me in the eyes of a neutral supporter who always thought he is a bona champion of the game.

He is hard done by because suspended players shouldn't be ineligible for the Brownlow. The fact he can't earn any brownlow points during the games he is suspended is punishment enough.

Chris Grant is a brownlow medalist in my eyes.

 

[Seeds]

But now we have Utopia.

They only ever made one episode of Utopia. They just continally air that same episode with a different label and everyone thinks its a new episode.

Thats the joke.

 

[HairyO]

Ian.Collins is one of the games greatest ever c..nts

AD and Gil far surpassed him.

 

[PowerForGood]

They only ever made one episode of Utopia. They just continally air that same episode with a different label and everyone thinks its a new episode.

Thats the joke.

So, just like the office culture it parodies then?

 

[FLYING DEES]

A bit of the path but more so another example of AFL tribunal incompetence. What about that incident last year when Dusty copped a 2 week ban over an elbow to GWS' Adam Kennedy, for what that incompetent Cristian called 'the potential to cause injury'. What a load of sh*t and it was rightfully downgraded to 1 week, but that 'potential' crap was just that. A made up rule that has never been mentioned in any case before or since. Michael Cristian should be rightfully unemployed next year. Who pulls his strings. That other incompetent fool Hocking? Such a joke of a position. What was Ian Collins position at the time of Grants issue? Was it more like the Bachar Houli crackdown after he got let off far too lightly initially until someone??? appealed

Irrelevant, nonsensical ramble