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Ticktak said:
Thank goodness we’ve finally got rid of Godden. Those who have worked with him know he never had the skill set to be an AFL assistant. Especially running the midfield of an AFL club 🤦‍♂️.
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I think he would of been handy in a development role at the club. He was knew to the AFL system which was always going to make it difficult. He needed to have a year as development coach and getting used to the AFL system and scouting before taking on a main role.

Having him step straight in and keeping Hart on showed how much we were struggling to attract the right skillset.
 
footy4ever said:
Boys club boys club
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Not really. A "boys club" appointment would be signing someone despite being totally incompetent at their job proven by previous failures (see Hart and Burton). They got the job though because they're Roo's mates. Bassett is

a) Not Roo's mate
b) Actually good at what he does proven by Port's defensive structure

Just because he was an ex-Crow, it doesn't make him part of the boy's club.
 
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TubbsFarquhar said:
Not really. A "boys club" appointment would be signing someone despite being totally incompetent at their job proven by previously failures (see Hart and Burton). They got the job though because they're Roo's mates. Bassett is

a) Not Roo's mate
b) Actually good at what he does proven by Port's defensive structure

Just because he was an ex-Crow, it doesn't make him part of the boy's club.
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He is a Neil Craig disciple.

Two years ago you could see a lot of NC in the way Port played. Slow methodical build up, defend space over cause a contest, field position over attacking the goal mouth.

Then Schofield arrived. Port much more direct, create the turnover/force the contest and longer play.


Bass is very much in the NC school of Football. Just like Goodwin and I bet Rutten is too.

We don't want that.

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hippyhippy said:
These changes are good .. but I'm still waiting for changes in the boardroom
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adelaidecrows said:
The club never said sacked. So we shouldn't use it either.
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Crowbotoratory said:
Sacked.
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Now, now, Crowbotoratory , be nice. Not "sacked" ;) .
Let go.
Surplus to the Crows' current needs.
Released, to pursue other opportunities.
Downsized.
Canned.
Dismissed.
Made redundant.
Axed.
Parted ways.
No longer a fit.
Transitioned.
Un-hired.
It's not you, it's us.
(read for all of the above: "It's you, not us. We want our forward line to work and kick goals").
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
There are far fewer elite players

You can see with players like Hodge that they are practically coaches on the field. Instructing others, directing traffic, vocal. Successfully I might add. You know they'll be good coaches straight out of the game.

Josh Kennedy (Syd) has never struck me the same way, good player but doesn't seem like he's running the show and impacting others (though the pedigree is there)
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You know who else directed his players on the field? Voss
 
Vhaluus said:
You know who else directed his players on the field? Voss
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Difference between the gee up yeller and tactical. He never struck me as particularly smart during all his interviews as a player. Was a lad. Good at football. Not really a football thinker in the way Hodge demonstrates. Never screamed coach in waiting.
 

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When you lose faith in AFC with even after review cleanup we stayed with easy options in coaches etc and even the appointment of Nicks being SA boy looked easy option , then finally touch decisions being made in players and coaches.
Only thing didn't like was the soft sell on Ben Hart moving for family reasons .
He was sacked because he cant coach and never could or will and should never been given another chance back with us.
Mods please put a ban on anyone that mentions that ex Power , GWS, Richmond coaches name .
He was toxic at Power with 2004 making him unbearable to all and GWS was heir apparent to follow Sheedy but realised wasn't and Richmond could not handle him in a minor role .
Think we got a good no nonsense operators in Kelly and Nicks now need to look at Haas and improving our recruiting team in some way asa too many mistakes been made in both departments and lets build a new complete team to get us back where should be.
 
Thetrader15 said:
Agree, I've been talking about the lack of movement for ages. Even in the wqrm ups v Essendon, all the CBA stuff involved players standing sti.
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I and others have been referring to it since Lyons left. As whether one rates him or not, that was a very obvious point of difference between him and our other mids. Our club/coaches has been very reluctant to make changes. We were calling for Laird to get a crack in the stoppages weeks before they made the move. Here was a guy flatlining in his old role watching a midfield getting torched and he clearly had the attributes required to make a difference. It's almost disappointing that it worked.
 
hey shorty said:
Hart's son goes to school in Melbourne, after he moved to coach Collingwood.

Mattner will coach in the SANFL again next year
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If there are still development coaches next year, why wouldn't Mattner be better for that role than Reilly? He was recruited in a higher position, so you'd think is more highly rated. I suppose he may have knocked that option back as he wants to be involved game day.
 
Mutineer said:
Josh Kennedy if he doesn't continue playing next season would interest me as a midfield coach...Played under some really good head coaches and assistant coaches
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He has had some good coaches and he comes from one of the best cultured clubs. Worth a look.
 
dogs105 said:
Never change Bigfooty
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I ruled a line through him early, then slowly warmed, then cooled again at selection for Roos game and have been warming again ever since. There's still a way to go and there remains some concerns. But I'm prepared to say my early call is looking shaky and Roo et al may have recruited an agent of change. Which would mean this guy bluffed his way through every interview.
 
hey shorty said:
Nicks and Kelly I'd say.

Nicks was told he could have free reign of his own staff
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Which Pyke could have done after 2017 concluded. Had the club by the balls, they could deny him next to nothing. But he chose to not use his power which effectively led to his demise. He could even have managed to curtail Burton's influence.
 
TubbsFarquhar said:
Not really. A "boys club" appointment would be signing someone despite being totally incompetent at their job proven by previously failures (see Hart and Burton). They got the job though because they're Roo's mates. Bassett is

a) Not Roo's mate
b) Actually good at what he does proven by Port's defensive structure

Just because he was an ex-Crow, it doesn't make him part of the boy's club.
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The boys club has existed at our club before Roo became so heavily involved in its day to day running.

Stop equating the boys club with Roo, it is far deeper rooted.

He is a symptom, not a cause.
 
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