Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 2

[Turnover]

Raj is going to lose his fifth job because Melbourne's most liveable city tag is under pressure?

LOLSY.

All those other cities that Melbourne is competing with for that tag are also battling the same pandemic.
So it all cancels out.

The real issue is that the pandemic is exposing Melbourne's sordid underbelly of preggers Zoe from Ballarat collaborating with far-right extremists to organise protests.

Hate to be your brain.

 

[Gethelred]

if you have looked at the polling over the past couple of years there has been a significant decline in polling quality due to the difficulty of getting a correct sample due to the lack of landline phones and other changes. This wasn't the first election that the polls were wrong.

The polls leading up showed a slight tightening but constantly had labor taking an easy victory in the 2-3% margin. In fact it was the reverse. Trying to spin they were on the right track is irrelevant. They were totally wrong.

Sigh.

The point of the post is not that the polls in the leadup to the last election were accurate, it's that the last election does not delegitimize polling forever, done, no takebacks. Funny that you got stuck on the tangential part of the post, instead of the rest of it, hmm?

 

[Gethelred]

I'm just trying to work out why you're having such a weird melt over this.

It was clear to everyone he'd copied and pasted it.

Because I've been plagiarized before, and I didn't like it very much at the time. And it surely isn't much of a standard to adhere to; just include a link from the origin of where you got something.

 

[Funk]

Covid deaths as of October 1st.

Victoria - 800

QLD, NSW, SA, WA, TAS, NT, ACT - 86

NSW including Ruby Princess debacle - 55 dead

Victoria due to hubris & incompetence - 800 dead

Congratulations Andrews - I think you’re the problem not the solution.

 

[Magnum27]

Did you even bother to follow the link I posted when I made the original reply? The text - in full - is taken from an article on News.com. She is the attributed author of the article. She is held to a professional standard; she cannot copy-paste like you, or else she'd be out of a job.

This isn't a difficult thing to accomplish.

Did you bother to click on the link i provided where the post in this rolling thread has Alexis Carey name linked to the post in the rolling thread, which is what i copied from. My mistake was not copying her name i guess. Here you go with her name in copy

Andrews' trainwreck hotel quarantine response

Alexis Carey
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has floundered during questioning over the latest hotel quarantine disaster.
Spotless staff working at Melbourne's Novotel quarantine hotel were abruptly pulled by the state government yesterday and replaced with police after a worker voiced concerns over potential infection control breaches.
Mr Andrews was peppered with questions about the scandal during this morning's press conference, but one simple question repeatedly tripped him up during an awkward and confusing exchange.
It has been widely reported that the staff in question were private security guards, which Mr Andrews disputed – but he seemed unable to confirm what role the workers were actually fulfilling.
"I'll start at the top. Corrections Victoria who are running that program. You have security provided by Victoria Police. You have got cleaning, for instance. I don't think anyone expects members of Victoria Police to be cleaning rooms. So you have a company that is employed to do that work. You have got then Alfred Health who are providing health care obviously, welfare, some of those other important functions. The importance of which I think has been pretty well canvassed during the work of the board," he said.
Reporters then asked what the Spotless workers were doing, if not providing security.
"They were providing I think – I suppose you could say it was an extension of welfare work, I would have thought. They are in place, somebody needs something or if there was an issue, they would alright Victoria Police for instance and they would deal with that issue," Mr Andrews responded.
He was then asked to clarify whether the Spotless workers were "support staff".
"If you are not providing security then you are not security staff. The statement of Alfred Health makes that very clear. The Victoria Police are providing the security. They are providing the security there," Mr Andrews said.
He was then asked whether it was a role the ADF could fulfil.
"I don't think the ADF will be cleaning rooms," he said, before being interrupted by a reporter who pointed out Mr Andrews had just said the Spotless workers were not cleaners, but instead "supporting Victoria Police".
"Are they cleaners or security staff or are they support workers? Which are they?" a frustrated reporter asked, to which Mr Andrews responded: "Well, as I have just said to you, have a look at what Alfred Health has said. Alfred Health has made it clear they are not providing security. They don't provide security. The site is secured by Victoria Police."
During the exchange, Mr Andrews repeatedly referred to that statement from Alfred Health which supposedly cleared up the mystery – but the conference took another bizarre turn when a reporter claimed no such statement exists.
Clear as mud.

 

[Gethelred]

Did you bother to click on the link i provided where the post in this rolling thread has Alexis Carey name linked to the post in the rolling thread. My mistake was not copying her name.

There we go. All you had to do.

 

[NSWCROW]

And people voted for this dumb campaigner lol

 

[boncer34]

Because I've been plagiarized before, and I didn't like it very much at the time. And it surely isn't much of a standard to adhere to; just include a link from the origin of where you got something.

Uh huh, dude if you're going to get upset every time someone copy and pastes something on an internet forum without crediting the source, then they probably aren't the place for you.

 

[Gethelred]

Uh huh, dude if you're going to get upset every time someone copy and pastes something on an internet forum without crediting the source, then they probably aren't the place for you.

Uh, dude, I think I'll choose what and where I take issue with things, as entertaining as it would be to outsource my outrage to Essendon supporters.

 

[Magnum27]

There we go. All you had to do.

But you said it was Vanessa Brown, i'm confused now, my wife would say that's not hard. I don't get the whole getting the knickers in a twist bbecause i missed one line in a copy, but fair enough.

 

[Number37]

Jumping at shadows champ.

Me or you?

 

[Bazzar]

NSW including Ruby Princess debacle - 55 dead

Victoria due to hubris & incompetence - 800 dead

Congratulations Andrews - I think you’re the problem not the solution.

That's why the DailyDan is so sickening, how he tries and succeedes going by the polls, in praising Victorians efforts and making out we are the good responsible guys in following his own reccomendations as a direct result of his incompetence. The incompetence is the bit he always forgets to add to his daily propaganda brief.

He is such a slick, smooth opperater, should have been a polititan.... oh, wait...

 

[Kwality]

This is what I (and it seems Dan and co) are worried about most. The ability to contact trace effectively. NSW did it with similar numbers but had a lot of people willingly come forward to be tested (after that outbreak at that pub).

Way around this is keep restrictions to indoor facilities including retail, gyms etc up until things get more under control.

How about we all wear a tracking bracelet as a condition of Covid normal - beats lockdowns. If wearing it offends, stay home & others can decide whether to visit you.

 

[Belnakor]

Sigh.

The point of the post is not that the polls in the leadup to the last election were accurate, it's that the last election does not delegitimize polling forever, done, no takebacks. Funny that you got stuck on the tangential part of the post, instead of the rest of it, hmm?

polls have been more wrong than right for the past 3-4 years. Everyone should be taking it with a grain of salt.

 

[Gethelred]

polls have been more wrong than right for the past 3-4 years. Everyone should be taking it with a grain of salt.

Sure, but there reaches a point where skepticism becomes denial.

Follow the original post back to its origins. Are you comfortable disregarding each and every poll because of the last election? Does each and every step taken to try and recalibrate the polling to try and find how they were so wrong before not matter at all?

 

[Belnakor]

Sure, but there reaches a point where skepticism becomes denial.

Follow the original post back to its origins. Are you comfortable disregarding each and every poll because of the last election? Does each and every step taken to try and recalibrate the polling to try and find how they were so wrong before not matter at all?

until they get it right i'll be disregarding all polls as accurate for the public. But the poll itself is obviously legitimate in terms of people they spoke to.

So on the Dan Andrews poll I would say based on that poll, 61% of people they spoke to are morons who don't follow the news. How you could say someone is doing a good job when they have spent the past 2 days lying, failing to remember or refusing to answer questions in an inquiry just boggles the mind.

 

[Kwality]

So you're complaining that they will open up?

How do read that into the post ? Rage creation by putting words into someone elses mouth.

 

[Kwality]

New York City residents who refuse to wear a mask while in public will be subject to a fine of $1,000.

On Wednesday, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced the new fine as the rate of positive COVID-19 tests in the city rose above 3% for the first time in months. The Democrat said that the penalty is being put in place as a means to protect residents of the city from contracting the disease ahead of the flu season.

“We don’t want to fine people, but if we have to, we will,”

So what?

 

[Kwality]

Approval rating drops 9 points, but Dan is the man. FFS

I know we are in lockdown but in the very small circle I see or speak to, the support for Dan is weakening.

 

[Gethelred]

until they get it right i'll be disregarding all polls as accurate for the public. But the poll itself is obviously legitimate in terms of people they spoke to.

So on the Dan Andrews poll I would say based on that poll, 61% of people they spoke to are morons who don't follow the news. How you could say someone is doing a good job when they have spent the past 2 days lying, failing to remember or refusing to answer questions in an inquiry just boggles the mind.

See, I find it funny how people accuse Labor of blaming the voters instead of looking within for their own faults, but people who play for the other team are more than happy to think of those who support the opposition as morons. Speaks to the relative ways both sides view the world.

Suffice to say, all politicians lie, and the hotel quarantine was a ****up of monumental proportions. The perception of having done and continuing to do a good job trumps the actuality of having done poorly, at least until it is adequately shoved into the public's face sufficiently.

It'd help if the Vic opposition were not absolutely awful.

 

[Evolved1]

I know we are in lockdown but in the very small circle I see or speak to, the support for Dan is weakening.

I haven't met anyone in the real world who approves of the Victorian governments handling of this pandemic. I'm still onsite at work most days, and none of the people I speak with there think he's done a good job. Not one.

The fanbois who post here are outliers.

 

[Number37]

How do read that into the post ? Rage creation by putting words into someone elses mouth.

You're projecting a lot these days. RUOK?

 

[Evolved1]

See, I find it funny how people accuse Labor of blaming the voters instead of looking within for their own faults, but people who play for the other team are more than happy to think of those who support the opposition as morons. Speaks to the relative ways both sides view the world.

Suffice to say, all politicians lie, and the hotel quarantine was a fu**up of monumental proportions. The perception of having done and continuing to do a good job trumps the actuality of having done poorly, at least until it is adequately shoved into the public's face sufficiently.

It'd help if the Vic opposition were not absolutely awful.

It's Carlton (O'Brien) vs Essendon (Andrews) in Victoria.

Choose your poison.

 

[Number37]

It's Carlton (O'Brien) vs Essendon (Andrews) in Victoria.

Choose your poison.

It's more like non-Richmond supporters (O'Brien) still sh*tting on Richmond (Andrews) for finishing ninth in 1923...despite having won 2 of the last 3 flags.

 

[Evolved1]

Because I've been plagiarized before, and I didn't like it very much at the time. And it surely isn't much of a standard to adhere to; just include a link from the origin of where you got something.

If I had anything worth copying, someone would plagiarize me.

 

[Evolved1]

It's more like non-Richmond supporters (O'Brien) still sh*tting on Richmond (Andrews) for finishing ninth in 1923...despite having won 2 of the last 3 flags.

I don't know if it's true, but word around these parts is that you live in Sydney.

In that case, your love for Dan can be likened to a Richmond supporter wishing that Mark Neeld was their coach.