2020/21 Off-Season Discussion Thread

fightingfury_88 · Oct 10, 2020

Use this thread to discuss anything you want about the 2020/21 AFLTM Off-Season. Try to keep all discussion on the off-season happenings in this thread rather than the off-season thread thread. Bids and trades must be posted in the 2020/21 Off-Season Thread or they won't be valid.

knobby · Oct 11, 2020

What would I need to pay for delisting Gibbs if any because he retired with one year to go on his AFL contract

fightingfury_88 · Oct 11, 2020

knobby said:
What would I need to pay for delisting Gibbs if any because he retired with one year to go on his AFL contract

It's a tough one - because he had one year left on his contract I'm tending to lean towards the 0% payment.
It's one of those ones where he sort of retired/got delisted because he wasn't making the team anyway. Certainly wasn't injury related.

knobby · Oct 11, 2020

fightingfury_88 said:
It's a tough one - because he had one year left on his contract I'm tending to lean towards the 0% payment.
It's one of those ones where he sort of retired/got delisted because he wasn't making the team anyway. Certainly wasn't injury related.

yeah at the beginning of the year there was talk of him playing the half back sweeper roll which is why I was happy To trade him and only because his AFLTM contract matched his real contract

Marklar_33 · Oct 11, 2020

Is the salary cap rising this season?

fightingfury_88 · Oct 11, 2020

Marklar_33 said:
Is the salary cap rising this season?

No. Likely just the list cuts so essentially you'll still have more dollars per player on your list to spend.

ShaunDuggan · Oct 17, 2020

Does StKilda get extra salary cap for winning the premiership?

Also, open for trade discussions, chasing a Key forward.

fightingfury_88 · Oct 17, 2020

ShaunDuggan said:
Does StKilda get extra salary cap for winning the premiership?

Also, open for trade discussions, chasing a Key forward.

Unfortunately no. Scrapped the extra salary cap for premiers and minor premiers a couple of seasons ago.

peterss · Oct 20, 2020

Pick 1 is in the table if anyone interested.....Send me through your offers

fightingfury_88 · Oct 20, 2020

Ballarat Dragons open for discussions now also.

fightingfury_88 · Oct 20, 2020

Can coaches please vote/check in to the poll attached to this thread to confirm you are ready for the Off-season to commence on October 31. Want to make sure we aren't desperately looking for a new coach heading into the busiest part of the game.

sante · Oct 20, 2020

For those who have PM’d me, I will get back to you before it all kicks off. Just super busy at the moment

Marklar_33 · Oct 23, 2020

sante said:
For those who have PM’d me, I will get back to you before it all kicks off. Just super busy at the moment

Same

fightingfury_88 · Oct 31, 2020

GeeCat said:
Veterans

They were appearing in my UC players list, so if needed then I’ll re-veteranise Nat Fyfe and Mitch Duncan

Just for clarification: Yes they did need to be re-veteranised as they were out of contract and can be traded or bid on by opposition teams until you re-veteranise them.

fightingfury_88 · Oct 31, 2020

GeeCat said:
Veterans

They were appearing in my UC players list, so if needed then I’ll re-veteranise Nat Fyfe and Mitch Duncan

fightingfury_88 said:
Just for clarification: Yes they did need to be re-veteranised as they were out of contract and can be traded or bid on by opposition teams until you re-veteranise them.

In addition to this, you also have to specify that you want to re-veteranise any contracted veterans (i.e Dangerfield) as well if you wish for them stay on your list as veterans for the next season. Up until that point you can trade or delist him. He cannot be returned back to your senior list.

ShaunDuggan · Nov 1, 2020

If I put gaff on the veterans list, he is contracted, do I pay the 813k he's contracted for or the 4th vetran price of $520k?

fightingfury_88 · Nov 1, 2020

ShaunDuggan said:
If I put gaff on the veterans list, he is contracted, do I pay the 813k he's contracted for or the 4th vetran price of $520k?

Pay the veteran price.

fightingfury_88 · Nov 10, 2020

sausageroll said:
Gold Coast Devils

Veteranise Michael Hurley

18

Michael Hurley

Age
33

Ht

193cm

Wt
94kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
18.3

5

K
12.1

4

HB
6.2

4

M
6.4

5

T
0.9

3

MG
389.3

5

D
16.5

4

K
11.8

5

HB
4.7

3

M
6.3

5

T
0.3

1

MG
301.2

4

D
15.0

4

K
7.6

3

HB
7.4

5

M
5.0

5

T
2.0

4

(in case I need to post it)

You do need to. :thumbsu:

sausageroll · Nov 10, 2020

fightingfury_88 said:
You do need to.

Cool. Glad I did it then

sausageroll · Nov 10, 2020

While we're talking about veterans, do the rules still prevent us from retaining previous veterans as reguar listed players through the bidding system without veteranising them again?

fightingfury_88 · Nov 10, 2020

sausageroll said:
While we're talking about veterans, do the rules still prevent us from retaining previous veterans as reguar listed players through the bidding system without veteranising them again?

Yes that is correct.

sausageroll · Nov 10, 2020

fightingfury_88 said:
Yes that is correct.

I still think that rule should be changed to allow retention through bidding.
I always find it sad when you've had a player on your list for a decade but can't retain them because they'd be costing $500k as a 4th veteran but only scoring enough to warrant a $200k contract.
You still need to beat all other coaches in the bidding to retain them so it's not like you get them under value.

fightingfury_88 · Nov 11, 2020

sausageroll said:
I still think that rule should be changed to allow retention through bidding.
I always find it sad when you've had a player on your list for a decade but can't retain them because they'd be costing $500k as a 4th veteran but only scoring enough to warrant a $200k contract.
You still need to beat all other coaches in the bidding to retain them so it's not like you get them under value.

I don't have strong feelings for this rule either way and see arguments both for keeping it as is or changing it. We put it to a vote earlier this year and coaches voted to keep it the same. If there is a strong push amongst the group to change it we will put it to a vote and potentially change it for the next off-season.

Pie 4 Life · Nov 12, 2020

GeeCat said:
To Melbourne: Zac Williams + Jake Riccardi + Will Hoskin-Elliott

32

Will Hoskin-elliott

Age
30

Ht

186cm

Wt
82kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
14.0

4

K
9.3

4

HB
4.7

3

M
5.5

5

T
2.2

4

CL
0.6

3

D
11.1

3

K
7.6

3

HB
3.6

2

M
4.4

4

T
1.0

2

CL
0.4

3

D
12.4

4

K
9.4

4

HB
3.0

3

M
4.2

4

T
1.2

3

CL
1.2

4

+ Riley Bonner

36

Riley Bonner

Age
27

Ht

190cm

Wt
85kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
17.2

4

K
12.1

4

HB
5.2

4

M
4.3

4

T
1.4

3

CL
0.7

3

D
12.3

3

K
10.3

4

HB
2.0

1

M
3.5

3

T
1.3

2

CL
0.3

2

D
21.4

5

K
14.0

5

HB
7.4

5

M
5.0

5

T
2.0

4

CL
1.4

4

+ Derek Eggmolesse-Smith

43

Derek...

Age
25

Ht

180cm

Wt
80kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
17.0

4

K
10.3

4

HB
6.8

4

M
2.8

3

T
2.5

4

MG
310.5

4

D
16.5

4

K
11.0

4

HB
5.5

3

M
3.5

3

T
3.0

4

MG
310.5

4

D
17.0

5

K
10.3

4

HB
6.8

5

M
2.8

3

T
2.5

4

MG
310.5

5

+ 1st Round Pick #6 + 1st Round Pick #15 + 2021 3rd Round Pick

To Geelong: Zach Merrett + Jordan Ridley

14

Jordan Ridley

Age
25

Ht

195cm

Wt
94kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
15.6

4

K
11.1

4

HB
4.5

3

M
6.4

5

T
1.7

4

MG
244.8

4

D
17.0

4

K
11.9

5

HB
5.1

3

M
6.7

5

T
1.7

3

MG
265.4

4

D
13.8

4

K
9.6

4

HB
4.2

4

M
5.2

5

T
1.4

4

MG
208.2

4

+ Kyle Langford

4

Kyle Langford

Age
27

Ht

192cm

Wt
88kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
15.7

4

K
8.3

3

HB
7.3

5

M
3.9

4

T
3.3

5

G
0.7

4

D
17.4

4

K
9.0

4

HB
8.4

4

M
4.4

4

T
1.6

3

G
0.7

4

D
8.2

2

K
3.2

2

HB
5.0

4

M
2.0

3

T
2.6

4

G
0.6

3

+ Cale Hooker

26

Cale Hooker

Age
35

Ht

198cm

Wt
103kg

Pos.
D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D
16.2

4

K
8.2

3

HB
8.0

5

M
6.3

5

T
1.8

4

MG
213.6

3

D
11.8

3

K
5.8

2

HB
6.0

3

M
5.0

5

T
0.8

1

MG
107.0

2

D
14.6

4

K
3.2

2

HB
11.4

5

M
4.4

4

T
1.4

4

+ Lachlan Gollant + 3rd Round Pick #44

Merrett $813k, 3 years
Ridley $548k, 4 years
Langford $351k, 2 years
Hooker $214k, 1 year
Gollant $85k, 1 year

goldcoastsun to confirm.

fightingfury_88 after seeing this trade and realising the adjustments needed on the list posts.

ShaunDuggan · Nov 12, 2020

Open to trading Brad Crouch, Ollie Florent, Perryman and Pick 16.

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