List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[Purpellian Anchor]

Totally.

Ablett doesn’t have to play the whole year. Maybe do an Ottens move and start half way during the year.

Great Grandpa Ablett

 

[mike91]

Clark showed a lot in 2019. The only concerns I have over him are:
- how bad is the elbow?
- why couldn't (didn't?) Jordy maintain his fitness while he was getting over the elbow injury?

Assuming we got satisfactory answers to those questions, I'd trade #10 (better: 2021 1st) for him. But then I feel about Jordy the way others feel about Hogan.

Interesting, I think his elbows fine, everyone gets injured.

To me the questions are:

Why is your defensive game still poor?
Why did you return out of shape?
Why are you throwing a tantrum about not being picked, when your defensive work is still poor and you returned out of shape?

1 good year, 1 bad year. I'll happily take him, at the right price, but I'd also happily wait and see what he does next season, because I personally would be frustrated if we gave up #11 for a kid who doesn't fill immediate needs, who also has shown enough yet. In fact, although I know a first round would have to be involved in some shape or form, I'd be ok walking away unless we get something good back (like 2021 first round for Clark and 2021 second round) though that's highly unlikely.

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

Interesting, I think his elbows fine, everyone gets injured.

To me the questions are:

Why is your defensive game still poor?
Why did you return out of shape?
Why are you throwing a tantrum about not being picked, when your defensive work is still poor and you returned out of shape?

1 good year, 1 bad year. I'll happily take him, at the right price, but I'd also happily wait and see what he does next season, because I personally would be frustrated if we gave up #11 for a kid who doesn't fill immediate needs, who also has shown enough yet. In fact, although I know a first round would have to be involved in some shape or form, I'd be ok walking away unless we get something good back (like 2021 first round for Clark and 2021 second round) though that's highly unlikely.

Yeah the fitness question is the big one. He didnt maintain his fitness and why that was the case is an important to resolve.

I dont know if he himself has sooked about not getting picked. But my understanding is he is ambitious.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

If we were by some chance to make our way into the eight next year and even into the top four I think we would need a few more of those who have had a good taste of finals. Conca Fyfe Hamling Mundy Wilson? Walters? Lobb? Aish Hill...edit forgot Hogan



There is an extra intensity and toughness imop that comes with finals experience and "stepping up", especially around the younger inexperienced in finals group. Phillips would be a good addition in that regard as would Mihocek.

 

[Quokka]

So the club might consider trading out Hogan as long as they can then bring in a guy with a possible LTI and questions over commitment and dedication...

 

[Taylor]

He injured his shoulder most recently, the elbow was last year.

 

[WilloTree]

I'd trade Sturt for Rowbottom in an instant. I'd even throw in Schultz and Valente if the Swans needed it.

And I like Sturt and Valente.

SOrry, I think you've misunderstood. The Sturt/Schultz comparison was with Bobby Hill.

Comparing Sturt/Schultz to Rowbotton is apples and oranges.

 

[MadMundy]

So we've now been linked to

- Narkle
- Clark
- Pickett
- Phillips
- Brayshaw
- Cripps (pipe dream)
- Mihocek

Who do we realistically get from that bunch? Who would you like from that bunch?

 

[go_the_dockers]

So we've now been linked to

- Narkle
- Clark
- Pickett
- Phillips
- Brayshaw
- Cripps (pipe dream)
- Mihocek

Who do we realistically get from that bunch? Who would you like from that bunch?

None of them.

 

[pavalenkoo]

I think if we can get something half decent for hogan late first or early 2nd .... do it, the club doesn’t need anymore drama with such a young group. His got the talent but not the passion to be elite.


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[Carnthedockers]

I think if we can get something half decent for hogan late first or early 2nd .... do it, the club doesn’t need anymore drama with such a young group. His got the talent but not the passion to be elite.


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Hogan hasn’t got the passion? Really? He’s one of the most passionate blokes going around, probably too much so, the way he berates team mates when he doesn’t get the ball. I also regularly see him practicing his goal kicking on weekends at the park. Discipline is Hogan’s issue, not passion.

 

[theGav56]

Really its henry/oconnor and to an extent menegola and blicavs as a winger (which is clarks position long term imo) keeping him out.

But if he is fitter next year i think he will be in the 22.

Simpson?

 

[theGav56]

So we've now been linked to

- Narkle
- Clark
- Pickett
- Phillips
- Brayshaw
- Cripps (pipe dream)
- Mihocek

Who do we realistically get from that bunch? Who would you like from that bunch?

It's a pretty unconvincing list. Trade price the determining factor for me, and it would be Brayshaw and Clark on the shortlist, with the caveat that we walk away from any deal that leaves us without a first round pick (prior to Academy bids).

 

[pavalenkoo]

Hogan hasn’t got the passion? Really? He’s one of the most passionate blokes going around, probably too much so, the way he berates team mates when he doesn’t get the ball. I also regularly see him practicing his goal kicking on weekends at the park. Discipline is Hogan’s issue, not passion.

I stand corrected.... What I meant was his off field professionalism and yes discipline is not there. And I’m not sure it will ever be.

I hope he proves me wrong.


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[Taylor]

We've already bought the car, it's already all paid for. It cost a fortune to get, if we are trading it for the value of a top ten pick then ok.

 

[Carnthedockers]

We've already bought the car, it's already all paid for. It cost a fortune to get, if we are trading it for the value of a top ten pick then ok.

That’s what I don’t understand. We would be selling low. Better to see how he goes this year.

 

[bone2468]

So we've now been linked to

- Narkle
- Clark
- Pickett
- Phillips
- Brayshaw
- Cripps (pipe dream)
- Mihocek

Who do we realistically get from that bunch? Who would you like from that bunch?

Knowing Fremantle we will end up with Kamydn Mcintosh

 

[BigAlpha3]

Am I high or is Patty Cripps sitting with freo in the Brownlow medal count


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[Carnthedockers]

Am I high or is Patty Cripps sitting with freo in the Brownlow medal count


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Could be the only way he can attend? In wa for his break.

 

[BigAlpha3]

Could be the only way he can attend? In wa for his break.

Yeah got that didn’t know he was in wa


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[Ge3ks]

Am I high or is Patty Cripps sitting with Freo

Both?

You might even be tripping, because he's also sitting with Tim Kelly.

 

[Moonrat]

Am I high or is Patty Cripps sitting with freo in the Brownlow medal count


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Sheesh I just noticed that too. I was like 'what the actual f###????'

I think there's a contract on the table in front of JLo too!

 

[BigAlpha3]

Both?

You might even be tripping, because he's also sitting with Tim Kelly.

I might be but he is sitting on the freo side you just got fooled by camera angles


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[Wilksyy]

I heard Cripps would only move to W.A if he could go to West Coast... since that’s not happening he’s not coming over.

 

[Ge3ks]

I might be but he is sitting on the freo side

Naturally.