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Pyramid etc didnt help either
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Make the team pay the points
Anyway GWS have adopted the strategy to continue getting mainline draft picks for as long as they can. Their players would know that, cant blame them seeking to leave on their terms.
And dropping their captain after a monster re-signing? its not all roses there obviously
And dropping their captain after a monster re-signing? its not all roses there obviously
It's really up to clubs to keep their players happy. Most/all talented players still at their original clubs could get more money on the open market.
A decade ago everyone was saying Richmond was cooked, they were bottoming out at the worst possible time with the new clubs sucking up players and draft picks. Richmond needed special AFL assistance, they said. Other clubs lost players to the expansion teams; GWS offered Deledio $1m a year and he stayed for much less. Down the track Richmond attracted Lynch with a lower offer than he received elsewhere. Geelong no doubt also has players contracted below market rates. That they have managed to prise Cameron away from his beloved Sydney waterfront lifestyle is to their credit. Carlton for whatever reason currently seems to have no trouble attracting the interest of big names. They are selling their club effectively.
Build it and they will come.
A decade ago everyone was saying Richmond was cooked, they were bottoming out at the worst possible time with the new clubs sucking up players and draft picks. Richmond needed special AFL assistance, they said. Other clubs lost players to the expansion teams; GWS offered Deledio $1m a year and he stayed for much less. Down the track Richmond attracted Lynch with a lower offer than he received elsewhere. Geelong no doubt also has players contracted below market rates. That they have managed to prise Cameron away from his beloved Sydney waterfront lifestyle is to their credit. Carlton for whatever reason currently seems to have no trouble attracting the interest of big names. They are selling their club effectively.
Build it and they will come.
Pay what points?
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Draft pick Points equal to the free agency compensation, just like with academies, father son etc
Last night they revisited Brendon Gales 10 year plan in 2010. Roundly laughed at but would be complete with a win on Saturday
Just make the whole thing trading with points "AFLCOIN" its a dogs breakfast that some draftees are and some arent. that way a Ryan Burton for example needn't be shipped off without asking
Seems to make the most sense to me if they are all about equality. The team gaining the player should be paying the compo (and not every other team in the league by being pushed back in the draft)
Would also have the effect of making FAs in the top teams more attractive as they would cost less points wise.
There's less than a handful of big ticket stars that have moved via FA. And then a lot of solid-good players. Its hardly broken the competition.
A pretty overblown issue.
A pretty overblown issue.
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No but teams should then have the capacity to trade contracted players without the players consent. Clubs should also have drafted players for 4 years on 2+1+1 contracts. It's too far in the players favour at the moment and they can hold clubs to ransom.
3-0-75 was actually a five-year plan which we narrowly missed achieving (3 finals series in five years; reached 2). 3 premierships/10 years was in the footnotes. Really the 10 years expired in 2019, but no matter what happens on Saturday it's been a triumph of planning.
There are definite advantages to having a big supporter base. Richmond's was always there, but it wasn't until Gale pulled things together that it was tapped to its potential. Big crowds attract sponsors and players. The volatile supporter base that could at times be the club's own worst enemy has been brought to heel, for the time being at least.
It's much harder for the smaller clubs who face the perennial question of how to grow support with limited media exposure. To a certain extent they are beholden to the AFL, and I think that's the way the AFL likes it. After watching the process unfold from start to finish at my club, I'm convinced it begins with getting the right people in place off the field. This appeared to be the problem at Brisbane until recently; they're now a destination club.
FA is why the NBA is trash.
A small market club can draft a superstar but eventually they leave for a big city market.
The Lakers just won a chip because of FA.
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The advantage that Geelong have is it's location.
Players who are from country Victoria see it as an attractive option as it is rural to an extent, isn't a big city and the players can live on farms/small towns/along the coast ext
Bit of a difference with basketball in that a single top 5 player can turn a lottery team into a contender.
North could get Dustin Martin next season and wouldn't get near the 8
There's maybe 2 star players that have gone from bottom team to top team. Franklin doesn't count as he didn't leave a poor team, he left a contender for a contender, and Cameron has left a recent Grand Finalist and will go to a current Grand Finalist, so again he's not torching a bottom club.
Lynch and maybe Frawley are probably the only examples of genuine guns leaving bottom teams to go to top teams, I hardly see that as support for your argument. What about the other 30 odd transfers?
I bet Hawthorn could, with mayo on it
At the moment it's plucked out of thin air (as in it doesn't exist) and as a result pushes everyone back one spot in the draft.
If we're about equality, the team getting the player should pay for it
but you see the problem with paying for something "plucked out of thin air" right?
Its certainly better than circa 2009-10, when next to nothing happened
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Disagree. Imagine the uproar if you get employed somewhere and they tell you that you have to work with them for 8 years before you can work somewhere else of your choosing. Ridiculous. 8 years of service is more than enough to entitle a player to choose where they want to go. Some choose money. Some choose success.
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No-one ever thought the best players would go to a club down the bottom of the ladder......the issue is the AFL let the AFLPA dictate the terms, as in the best parts of free agency. Pretty much all other sport codes who have free agency have a window where the club controls the players contracts (first 4,5,6 years of their career).
But the players said 'its unfair if i have to move interstate
'........but i want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. AFL just said yes, ok.Just like the NBA an AFL side can acquire multiple FA which can have a major impact.
Geelong have multiple FA signings in their side.
Wrong, we have one. Dahlhaus.
Only others that we've signed in previous years are Jared Rivers, Sam Blease and Scott Selwood.
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