Ongoing Test match XI speculation thread.

[Hamingja]

I've been reading reports that Virat Kohli may not travel for the tour of Australia with the birth of his child soon. A strong reason why he wants to have the birth of his child in India , over Australia.

We will get to see how competitive they are without a couple of their best players this time around.....

 

[NYRB]

We will get to see how competitive they are without a couple of their best players this time around.....

Is it a big thing for the birth of a children for parents in their native home country?

I mean I'm aware that the Warners child was born in Britain recently.

 

[Drunkcat]

Leave her back in india and play cricket you can see the baby when you get back....miss all that crying

 

[big_e]

You've nominated your choice of best batter.......who would you say is the best pitcher?

Most of the Australian cricket hierarchy use batter, perhaps you should drag yourself out of the 19th century.

 

[TommyD13]

Would go with a 13 man squad for all 4 tests, with a back up seamer and spinner.
Pucovski
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Green
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Pattinson
Swepson

 

[Wild Kelly]

Most of the Australian cricket hierarchy use batter, perhaps you should drag yourself out of the 19th century.

I doubt that is true but if you are happy to go along with the Americanisation of the game then that's up to you dude!

 

[Ducky Tie]

Burns is in strife you’d think. Pucovski will be very hard to leave out. It’s an exciting time for Australian cricket where Labuschagne, Head and Pucovski are all earning their spots as young batsmen, rather than being gifted games out of hope. With those three at such young ages and Smith having 5 plus years to come, our batting stocks are looking healthy for the first time in a long time.

Green obviously is coming with momentum, but I think Wade probably holds his spot.

 

[Kyptastic]

Sounds like they'll have a squad of 17 for the tests almost like an Ashes Squad. I'd go with:

Warner
Pucovski
Marnus
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Starc
Cummins
Hazlewood
Lyon

Pattinson
Neser
Swepson
Green
Burns
Another Batsman (Smarsh/Henriques for experience perhaps. Would have gone with Maddinson if he'd been able to have more of a hit)

Wade's your backup keeper in case Paine goes down. They may want Carey in the squad though, he'd take the spot of the extra batsman.

 

[Voice of the G]

Burns is in strife you’d think. Pucovski will be very hard to leave out. It’s an exciting time for Australian cricket where Labuschagne, Head and Pucovski are all earning their spots as young batsmen, rather than being gifted games out of hope. With those three at such young ages and Smith having 5 plus years to come, our batting stocks are looking healthy for the first time in a long time.

Green obviously is coming with momentum, but I think Wade probably holds his spot.

Is Warner's spot secure in the test team.I hope he can play some shield games before the 1st test team is selected.

 

[eth-dog]

Sounds like they'll have a squad of 17 for the tests almost like an Ashes Squad. I'd go with:

Warner
Pucovski
Marnus
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Starc
Cummins
Hazlewood
Lyon

Pattinson
Neser
Swepson
Green
Burns
Another Batsman (Smarsh/Henriques for experience perhaps. Would have gone with Maddinson if he'd been able to have more of a hit)

Wade's your backup keeper in case Paine goes down. They may want Carey in the squad though, he'd take the spot of the extra batsman.

I reckon Maddinson would be the man as he can bat anywhere in the order. Otherwise agree.

 

[big_e]

I doubt that is true but if you are happy to go along with the Americanisation of the game then that's up to you dude!

Are you similarly outraged by the term bowler, or do you prefer bowlsman?

 

[Blackhawk42]

Warner
Pucovski
Labushagne
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Hazelwood
Lyon

Swepson
Burns
Green
Pattinson

Confident with this line up. Nailed the first XI for last years first ashes test when I know many didn't think that Siddle and Wade would be selected.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Lots of pressure on to perform to hold your spot. The number 3 keeper is keeping the other two honest now as well!

 

[Wild Kelly]

Are you similarly outraged by the term bowler, or do you prefer bowlsman?

As per the scoreboards at all grounds, the term is bowler. If you go with "batter" then go the whole hog and call bowlers "pitchers".

You strike me as the type of person that welcomes newspeak terms such as -
Catch instead of mark
Deeefence instead of defence, and
Quarterback instead of half back flankers
- and other such American terms which some commentators are now using instead of those which have served our indigenous football game well for some 150 years.

Correct?

 

[DaRick]

Is it a big thing for the birth of a children for parents in their native home country?

There may be other symbolic reasons for his decision, but a lazy search of the Wiki does suggest possible medium-term citizenship issues if the child is not born in India:

"Citizenship by Descent[edit]
Persons born outside India on or after 26 January 1950 but before 10 December 1992 are citizens of India by descent if their father was a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

Persons born outside India on or after 10 December 1992 are considered citizens of India if either of their parents is a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

From 3 December 2004 onwards, persons born outside of India shall not be considered citizens of India unless their birth is registered at an Indian diplomatic mission within one year of the date of birth. In certain circumstances it is possible to register after one year with the permission of the Central Government. The application for registration of the birth of a child must be made to an Indian diplomatic mission and must be accompanied by an undertaking in writing from the parents of the child that he or she does not hold the passport of another country.[9]"

 

[Messenger]

There may be other symbolic reasons for his decision, but a lazy search of the Wiki does suggest possible medium-term citizenship issues if the child is not born in India:

"Citizenship by Descent[edit]
Persons born outside India on or after 26 January 1950 but before 10 December 1992 are citizens of India by descent if their father was a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

Persons born outside India on or after 10 December 1992 are considered citizens of India if either of their parents is a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

From 3 December 2004 onwards, persons born outside of India shall not be considered citizens of India unless their birth is registered at an Indian diplomatic mission within one year of the date of birth. In certain circumstances it is possible to register after one year with the permission of the Central Government. The application for registration of the birth of a child must be made to an Indian diplomatic mission and must be accompanied by an undertaking in writing from the parents of the child that he or she does not hold the passport of another country.[9]"

Interesting, but I think Virat Kohli’s first born is getting Indian citizenship.

 

[Taylor]

I think Virat Kholi's first born will be named captain of the Indian U1s team and signed to the RCB squad as soon as he or she is born.

 

[BronCrow]

Lots of pressure on to perform to hold your spot. The number 3 keeper is keeping the other two honest now as well!

Jimmy Peirson is doing well isn't he!

 

[big_e]

As per the scoreboards at all grounds, the term is bowler. If you go with "batter" then go the whole hog and call bowlers "pitchers".

You strike me as the type of person that welcomes newspeak terms such as -
Catch instead of mark
Deeefence instead of defence, and
Quarterback instead of half back flankers
- and other such American terms which some commentators are now using instead of those which have served our indigenous football game well for some 150 years.

Correct?

Take it up with Cricket Australia

 

[eth-dog]

Jimmy Peirson is doing well isn't he!

We're talking about keepers, not batsmen who also happen to keep.

 

[BronCrow]

We're talking about keepers, not batsmen who also happen to keep.

What is wrong with Peirson's keeping.

I am aware he was talking about Inglis, and rightly so.

As for Batsmen that keep, it worked well with Gilchrist.

 

[eth-dog]

What is wrong with Peirson's keeping.

I am aware he was talking about Inglis, and rightly so.

As for Batsmen that keep, it worked well with Gilchrist.

You obviously haven't seen him keep too often. He's closer to Wade than Gilly with the gloves. And let's get one thing straight, Gilly was still an excellent keeper.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Gilchrist was still a world class gloveman - he may not have been Ian Healy - but he was better than Haddin and the equal of Paine

 

[BronCrow]

You obviously haven't seen him keep too often. He's closer to Wade than Gilly with the gloves. And let's get one thing straight, Gilly was still an excellent keeper.

Never said Gilly wasn't an excellent keeper. Lets get that quite clear.

Admittedly I haven't seen a huge amount of Peirsons keeping, only what I see at BBL, which isn't a great sample size.

There have been other good batsman that kept as well i.e. Sangakarra, McCallum, De Kock

 

[eth-dog]

Never said Gilly wasn't an excellent keeper. Lets get that quite clear.

Admittedly I haven't seen a huge amount of Peirsons keeping, only what I see at BBL, which isn't a great sample size.

There have been other good batsman that kept as well i.e. Sangakarra, McCallum, De Kock

And he's an inferior keeper to all of them.

Seriously, Peirson would be the bottom of the chain right now