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Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt2

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Now correct me if im wrong but didn't Chapman decide to leave on his own, we had offered him a contract but said he might play VFL a bit as well and he didnt like it.
Basically

We had a 1 year deal in front of him but no guarantee of game time - which is what it should be for all players, but he didn't seem to appreciate the suggestion that some VFL may be in his future

Essendon offered him a 1 year deal with a trigger clause of X games (say 15) to get a second year on the list.

Yes he reached that trigger mark, but I remember reading an interview with him after his second season with Essendon & he admitted he played games in his first season when he shouldn't have, that he wasn't putting his hand up when sore or not 100% as he was pushing for that trigger mark

It basically read that Geelong made the right approach with their offer, even if the player didn't want to accept it
 

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You are right, no player has come back to bite us, that’s why we continue to have faith in the club decisions
If we kept McCarthy, Miers doesn’t get a game
If we kept Fog, he’s fighting for a spot against Constable and Stephen’s.
I’m just frustrated that’s all
With Smith/Higgins coming in and Simpson really showing something... I really doubt Constable will ever be anything more than a good VFL player that might get a run due to injuries. Constable needs to have his biggest preseason ever and turn into a hulking inside player, or he will likely get the chop next year. Stephens is hopefully as good as we hope he can be, but still.... won't be in our best 22 in an all or nothing flag tilt next year.

Happy to lose Fogarty to get Higgins in.... who is still a legitimate gun. He is basically another (older version) of Mitch Duncan.
 

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Thx. Who was our first that year?
We didn't have a first round pick

People are still getting confused between a first round pick and our first selection in the draft

Fogarty was our first selection, but it doesn't make him a first round pick
 
McCarthy was pretty much fit in his last season at Geelong from memory, he just wasn't getting a game and I remember reading some comments, maybe on here somewhere that he wasn't really going that good / hard in the 2nds to warrant a promotion.

completely agree.
im really happy he has a career with Brisbane, but wouldnt have been picked in our grand final side this year, or round 1 next. Not at all the one that got away, glad to see him playing 1’s at brisbane instead of 2’s at the cats. Miers going a lot lot better.
 
With Smith/Higgins coming in and Simpson really showing something... I really doubt Constable will ever be anything more than a good VFL player that might get a run due to injuries. Constable needs to have his biggest preseason ever and turn into a hulking inside player, or he will likely get the chop next year. Stephens is hopefully as good as we hope he can be, but still.... won't be in our best 22 in an all or nothing flag tilt next year.

Happy to lose Fogarty to get Higgins in.... who is still a legitimate gun. He is basically another (older version) of Mitch Duncan.
agree its gonna be tough for chook to get in but higgins, simpson and smith are all outisde players and chook is an inside player
 

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We didn't have a first round pick

People are still getting confused between a first round pick and our first selection in the draft

Fogarty was our first selection, but it doesn't make him a first round pick

It shows the round definition is codswallop really... our R1 pick this year will be later than the Fogarty R2 pick
 
Thx. Who was our first that year?
It's complicated. It was used (along with Smedts) to get Tuohy the year before, with Carlton giving us their second rounder back alongside Tuohy. That second rounder became Fogs. We took Tim Kelly two picks later.
 
good rather than great Pure.

Fogarty was an upgrade of 38 to 30 ... we better make sure its useful

we need to trade for an early pick now ..and we can give it all to GWS ..something like P6 and P20 ... ? 30 for Higgins ...

So by the time we go to draft ..we will have 15 and basically .. last call ?

30 would be higgins and 13 and 20 cameron.
15 and 51 our 2 picks maybe unless we have more outs..i doubt we would use more than 3 picks in any event.
 
It's complicated. It was used (along with Smedts) to get Tuohy the year before, with Carlton giving us their second rounder back alongside Tuohy. That second rounder became Fogs. We took Tim Kelly two picks later.

Basically we got kelly and ablett for motlop and a future 2nd.
Traded 15 for tuohy and 22 which became fog.
 
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