hawkman
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It would be interesting if Geelong got to pick 6 and there is a draftee they wanted but didn't think they could get, would they really want to use that pick on CameronOr we take him at 6 in the draft. Game glitch. lulz
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It would be interesting if Geelong got to pick 6 and there is a draftee they wanted but didn't think they could get, would they really want to use that pick on CameronOr we take him at 6 in the draft. Game glitch. lulz
It’s amazing how the shape of the conversation has changed.
It’s amazing how the shape of the conversation has changed.
Even Wells himself has been quoted saying there was no way we were ever giving up the 3x1sts for Cameron. It was set to be 2x1sts for Cameron + future 2nd, then he threw in the pick 20 for Essendon's future 2nd round. That's why it rolled over once the Caldwell deal was put away.
The fleecing was done as soon as we matched the offer.It's just a Giants fan trying some mental gymnastics to convince himself they fleeced us.
The deal was good on both ends.
The fleecing was done as soon as we matched the offer.
The fleecing was done as soon as we matched the offer.
There is nothing wrong with having an old team if you win. Geelong's challenge over the next 2-5 years is not turning into Hawthorn, who were successful for an extended period then fell in a hole very quickly after topping up.
If you look at the net deal nothing changed in fact Geelong paid less than i thought they would.
No way, Geelong are now sitting pretty with a shot at a premiership next year, plus a first rounder and three second rounders in a much better draft. It's honestly close as to whether you'd prefer the three teens picks this year or the two early seconds next year.The fleecing was done as soon as we matched the offer.
You’re damned right it did.The fleecing was done as soon as we matched the offer.
No way, Geelong are now sitting pretty with a shot at a premiership next year, plus a first rounder and three second rounders in a much better draft. It's honestly close as to whether you'd prefer the three teens picks this year or the two early seconds next year.
2 of those three firsts you still expect to draft a decent kid given what's on the board.No way, Geelong are now sitting pretty with a shot at a premiership next year, plus a first rounder and three second rounders in a much better draft. It's honestly close as to whether you'd prefer the three teens picks this year or the two early seconds next year.
This is pretty amazing. According to Cats posters, you go downhill after 27 too.
Not when given that the rest of the players get older
Interesting that looking at the GF side minus the 2 players retired and the addition of the 3 new players could mean that 16 players are over 28 years old with 9 over 30 at the start of next season in the sides best 22
28 - 29
Dalhaus
Guthrie
Stewart
Cameron
Duncan
Menagola
Rohan
30 +
Dangerfield
Blivsac
Hawkins
Henderson
Higgins
Selwood
Stanley
Smith
Tuohy
We’re stoked that we got your 3 first round picks. You can have 2nd rounders.The part that really stunned me about this deal is the fact wells actually got two second round picks next year off bottom 8 projected clubs. So two likely early second rounders in a deep draft as part of the process.
The idea of all 3 for nothing in return is what it was made out to be and myself and othet geelong fans would have hated that. The 2 picks coming back has made it quite a suprising deal for geelong and one we are all very pleased with.
I honestly dont know how GWS fans feel about this one, but i have a feeling not great given geelong is very happy. Very rarely is one club happy while the other is happy, so i suspect not.
You campaigners still having a sword fight over this2 of those three firsts you still expect to draft a decent kid given what's on the board.
If you rate Cameron at 2 firsts it's even. Do I think it was wise? Not really. I believe Geelong has to completely up end the game style that got it to a gf to turn Cameron into a net benefit. Could work out really well but it's huge risk. So to me was Cameron worth the 2 firsts? Probably not but I hope I'm wrong.
I do however buy the argument that drafting highly rated kids this year wouldn't be ideal for the cats. 2 kids who will be stuck in the 2s for most of that time? They get to the end of their draft contracts and ask for a trade we lose them at a deficit anyway. Draft less rated kids next year and they'll hopefully push in as spots open up so it does make sense on that level.
You campaigners still having a sword fight over this
Brace yourself..Geelong fans are in denial that Stephen Wells did what he promised that he wouldn't and folded and gave into the Giants demands.
Can see the Giants easily making the 8 again next year and thus one ot their 2nd round picks they got back from GWS will be pushed back into the 40s.
Everyone knows the Giants won this trade (even if only from a PR point of view) and all the assets the Cats for Tim Kellyhas been squandered on a restricted free agent.PLAYERCARDSTART11Tim Kelly
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 23.6
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 10.1
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- M
- 3.4
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- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 4.9
- 5star
- D
- 19.9
- 5star
- K
- 12.3
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- HB
- 7.6
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- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 4.7
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- 3.6
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- D
- 21.6
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- K
- 10.4
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- M
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PLAYERCARDEND
Way off the mark as always, DVB.Geelong fans are in denial that Stephen Wells did what he promised that he wouldn't and folded and gave into the Giants demands.
Can see the Giants easily making the 8 again next year and thus one ot their 2nd round picks they got back from GWS will be pushed back into the 40s.
Everyone knows the Giants won this trade (even if only from a PR point of view) and all the assets the Cats for Tim Kellyhas been squandered on a restricted free agent.PLAYERCARDSTART11Tim Kelly
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 23.6
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 10.1
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 4.9
- 5star
- D
- 19.9
- 5star
- K
- 12.3
- 5star
- HB
- 7.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 4.7
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 4star
- D
- 21.6
- 5star
- K
- 10.4
- 4star
- HB
- 11.2
- 5star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 5star
- CL
- 3.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
Yeah probably time to let it goYou campaigners still having a sword fight over this
All?Geelong fans are in denial that Stephen Wells did what he promised that he wouldn't and folded and gave into the Giants demands.
Can see the Giants easily making the 8 again next year and thus one ot their 2nd round picks they got back from GWS will be pushed back into the 40s.
Everyone knows the Giants won this trade (even if only from a PR point of view) and all the assets the Cats for Tim Kellyhas been squandered on a restricted free agent.PLAYERCARDSTART11Tim Kelly
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 23.6
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 10.1
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 4.9
- 5star
- D
- 19.9
- 5star
- K
- 12.3
- 5star
- HB
- 7.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 4.7
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 4star
- D
- 21.6
- 5star
- K
- 10.4
- 4star
- HB
- 11.2
- 5star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 5star
- CL
- 3.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
To be honest i dont see what the big deal is. 13,15 and 20 will probably turn into 16,18 and 23. Geelong done ok
At least there's a basket there to put our eggs in.The fact they said all along they would not bend under any circumstances and give 3 First Round Picks away is the issue I have with it.
I honestly think they should have given away a battler like Ratagolua instead of a third first round pick, now granted the player has to agree to be traded, but on an open market, Ratagolua would be worth a mid 3rd round pick (at best)
If they win a flag with Jezza, it will be all worth it I suppose, still not convinced a forward line of Hawkins and Cameron can function properly either.. (but then again, I thought the same about Riewoldt and Tim Hawkins)
For an aging list, they are putting all their eggs in the one (Dangerflag) basket.